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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

model 3 has voice control "turn on wipers" "set AC to 68" "drive home" - at the press of a button, the music fades and it listens like "hey Siri"

That sounds like a poor solution to a problem of their own making

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#122

I've never owned a Hyundai, but stuff like this makes me want to look at them. I recently bought what I thought was a car, only to find it is a tech-ridden abomination. I want a vehicle that is reliable. I want a vehicle that is simple. I do not want a rolling AI/touchscreen. Even just from a security standpoint I want minimal software in my car.

Hyundai’s are being stolen[0] left and right where I live.

[0]: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hyundai-kia-p...

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#123
Good on Hyundai! Other cars will go back to this, or will the NTSB make them?

Aviation has figured this out long ago. Look at any "glass" cockpit. They all have buttons around the screen. For example see linked [1] Garmin 1000 panel, common in General Aviation.

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garmin_G1000#/media/File:Garmi...

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#126
post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

model 3 has voice control "turn on wipers" "set AC to 68" "drive home" - at the press of a button, the music fades and it listens like "hey Siri"

It was doing its best on automatic but the wipers were sporadic at best. This was a major winter storm and visibility was awful …the model 3 had no idea where the lane lines were and apparently no idea how bad the precipitation was.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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post #109

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I was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidem…

Same deal, my Hyundai was stolen 3 times from Sept 2021 to October 2022 when I finally sold it. Was a huge headache.

3 times in a year? I'd be looking to move far, far away.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidem…

I have a hand-screw isolator on the battery of my my VW T5, like this https://images.app.goo.gl/d5GXhBocg3gEjhbZA I take the green screw part with me if I have any concerns, and sometimes even if it's parked in it's usual place at home. I figure if a their tries to start the vehicle and it doesn't even turn on, they're likely to move to the next vehicle rather than muck about trying to troubleshoot mine. It's low tec…

You are now the second person to recommend me an idea in that vein; I have just been using a steering wheel lock since I can't actually get an immobilizer rn. So I think I will actually materialize on your idea. Appreciate the comment.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

#129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidem…

I have a hand-screw isolator on the battery of my my VW T5, like this https://images.app.goo.gl/d5GXhBocg3gEjhbZA I take the green screw part with me if I have any concerns, and sometimes even if it's parked in it's usual place at home. I figure if a their tries to start the vehicle and it doesn't even turn on, they're likely to move to the next vehicle rather than muck about trying to troubleshoot mine. It's low tec…

I used to pull the accessories fuse, so it wouldn’t start.
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