I absolutely hate Calibri. I hate that Microsoft made it the default font and now we're all left with this quirky, unbalanced font as the default.
Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
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Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
8.5”x11” is a standard size for the US and Canada, but not for the rest of the world. Which leads to the eternal problems for any NGOs or contractors working for the US government overseas who have to source Letter size for US gov partners and A4 for local partners!
Does it really matter? Letter size is close enough to A4 that I doubt anyone but paper nerds would notice
For sending official paperwork to a judge or a visa or something like that, there are a lot of rules. Sending A4 instead of Letter will make them reject your paperwork on the spot.
Someone told me a horror story about a PhD thesis rejected because it has wrong margins (probably something about the margins of the document and additional margins added by the driver). He has to reprint all the copies. Most universities are not so stupid, but if your university is stupid enough, remember to triple check the margins.
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#173Allegedly during Colin Powell’ time at the State Department there was quite an ordeal to change paper sizes for communication between offices: https://www.govexec.com/magazine/2001/06/the-powell-leadersh... “correspondence between headquarters and overseas embassies, known as Diplomatic Notes, for years had to be accompanied by a legal-size (8 1/2-inch by 14-inch) cover sheet. That wasn't really a big deal when the n…
8.5”x11” is a standard size for the US and Canada, but not for the rest of the world. Which leads to the eternal problems for any NGOs or contractors working for the US government overseas who have to source Letter size for US gov partners and A4 for local partners!
Why would anyone care if they received the other paper size? The differences are tiny.
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#174Allegedly during Colin Powell’ time at the State Department there was quite an ordeal to change paper sizes for communication between offices: https://www.govexec.com/magazine/2001/06/the-powell-leadersh... “correspondence between headquarters and overseas embassies, known as Diplomatic Notes, for years had to be accompanied by a legal-size (8 1/2-inch by 14-inch) cover sheet. That wasn't really a big deal when the n…
8.5”x11” is a standard size for the US and Canada, but not for the rest of the world. Which leads to the eternal problems for any NGOs or contractors working for the US government overseas who have to source Letter size for US gov partners and A4 for local partners!
In the Philippines, it is even worse. At least four standards (A4, Letter, Legal, and Long Bond), and all of them are necessary for communication with various government agencies such as BIR.
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it really matter? Letter size is close enough to A4 that I doubt anyone but paper nerds would notice
For sending official paperwork to a judge or a visa or something like that, there are a lot of rules. Sending A4 instead of Letter will make them reject your paperwork on the spot. Someone told me a horror story about a PhD thesis rejected because it has wrong margins (probably something about the margins of the document and additional margins added by the driver). He has to reprint all the copies. Most universities…
In the 80s at UIC, there was famously a woman in the graduate school who checked measurements of all margins and other spacing with a ruler and rejected dissertations which didn’t meet the strict requirements.
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
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A/B/C paper series formats are based on metrics system and therefore, morally evil and unfit for the US consumption.
The US military is no stranger to the metric system, it's the standard.
The metric standard was defined by law as the official measurement system of the us in the nineteenth century. But Americans are stubborn.
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it really matter? Letter size is close enough to A4 that I doubt anyone but paper nerds would notice
For sending official paperwork to a judge or a visa or something like that, there are a lot of rules. Sending A4 instead of Letter will make them reject your paperwork on the spot. Someone told me a horror story about a PhD thesis rejected because it has wrong margins (probably something about the margins of the document and additional margins added by the driver). He has to reprint all the copies. Most universities…
> Sending A4 instead of Letter will make them reject your paperwork on the spot.
This generally happens not because anyone actually cares about the paper size, but because some employee has a target to 'process 5 applications per day, and then you can go home.' If an application is made on the wrong size paper, thats an insta-deny, and the employee just saved themselves an hour!
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
8.5”x11” is a standard size for the US and Canada, but not for the rest of the world. Which leads to the eternal problems for any NGOs or contractors working for the US government overseas who have to source Letter size for US gov partners and A4 for local partners!
Yep. Every time I have to renew my Australian passport I have to buy a ream of A4 paper. Every time I forget where last time's ream was stored. I suspect someday I'll find thousands of sheets somewhere lost in my basement.
Sounds like a PC LOAD LETTER issue.
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#179Calibri was designed for low-res screens [1]. "De Groot created Calibri in the early 2000s, as part of a collection of fonts for enhanced screen reading. “I designed it in quite a hurry,” he says."
Even Microsoft is moving on from Calibri!
[1] https://www.wired.com/story/calibri-default-font-microsoft-m...
Re: Times New Roman is being phased out at the State Department, replaced by Calibri
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
For sending official paperwork to a judge or a visa or something like that, there are a lot of rules. Sending A4 instead of Letter will make them reject your paperwork on the spot. Someone told me a horror story about a PhD thesis rejected because it has wrong margins (probably something about the margins of the document and additional margins added by the driver). He has to reprint all the copies. Most universities…
> Sending A4 instead of Letter will make them reject your paperwork on the spot. This generally happens not because anyone actually cares about the paper size, but because some employee has a target to 'process 5 applications per day, and then you can go home.' If an application is made on the wrong size paper, thats an insta-deny, and the employee just saved themselves an hour!
It's more about making nice folders where all the sheets hace the same size, and be able to make holes in the same spot in all of them. The employee has to be there 8 hours per day, even if there in no application to process.