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Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by tomjen3 »

alexb_ wrote: post #15

The moment that apple announced "privacy" as their focus I knew this was going to happen. They don't actually care about user privacy, but rather want exclusive rights to all of your data so that they can sell it for a markup. If you want to sell targeted ads to anyone using an Apple device, you'll have to let Apple do the targeting (and take their cut). Get customers locked into the apple ecosystem, "protect" them f…

>They don't actually care about user privacy, but rather want exclusive rights to all of your data so that they can sell it for a markup.

Of course not, in the same way that a Bently manufacture doesn't care that I own the car everybody envy, but that doesn't mean he won't make a car the everybody envies, because he does care about selling me an expensive car.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by JKCalhoun »

yurishimo wrote: post #150
Aperocky wrote: post #135

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hindsight is 2020. What I'm referring to is instead of coming up with something that could be a game changer organically, forcing it because "We need a big idea now". That has a much higher chance to fail.

I think this is why it’s taken so long to release the VR headset. It’s obviously been functional for years at this point and there are tons of other headsets on the market proving there is at least some demand. But I think apple is taking it slow and waiting for the right opportunity rather than shoehorn it in at the last second of Q4 to bolster EOY earnings. Same with the car. I’m more skeptical of that project ever…

I'm not sure it's obvious there is demand. You say "tons off other headsets" but it still feels very niche to me.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by ccouzens »

mojuba wrote: post #85
wbsss4412 wrote: post #56

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While I’m sure AR glasses are coming and will be popular, the notion that they’ll be so popular that smart phones won’t even have screens is particularly bold. Smartphones didn’t replace PDAs, most people didn’t have a PDA to replace. Smart phones replaced whole categories of devices and bundled them into one: cameras, camera phones, PDAs, MP3 players, watches, timers, alarm clocks etc. People keep looking for “the n…

> People keep looking for “the next big thing” and it just isn’t coming. Or... what if the next big thing is the phone becomes the computer, i.e. there will be no laptops? Imagine a device that you can connect to some peripherals including a monitor (possibly with its own GPU), then you undock it, put it in your pocket and move on to the next place - your home or your work with peripherals ready to use. Today it seem…

> Imagine a device that you can connect to some peripherals including a monitor (possibly with its own GPU), then you undock it, put it in your pocket and move on to the next place - your home or your work with peripherals ready to use.

You can do that with Dex on the higher end Samsung phones.

My brief review of it is close, but lacking some finess with the browsers compared to other desktop operating systems.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by traceroute66 »

CodeSgt wrote: post #104
lm28469 wrote: post #92

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> dealing with carriers has been hell since the beginning. Are you American by any chance ? This has been solves in other places through regulations

No it hasn't. There wasn't a specific grevience listed so you really dont know if European regulations have solved it or not. I'm an American but have spent years living in Europe and dealing with carriers there has its own frustrations. These sorts of comments are common but always strike me as having been made by someone with little to no real world experience on the specific issue being discussed.

> you really dont know if European regulations have solved it or not

Ask anybody who has lived in the UK long enough about Vodafone.

The story normally goes something like this:

    - 90s = Dogs bollocks, nobody came close
    - 00s = Started to smell a bit, but still the most robust technical service
    - early 10s = Really starting to rest on their laurels now
    - late 10s – today = Shit, godawful shit.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by pathartl »

gnicholas wrote: post #112
superdug wrote: post #91

Am I a realist on Apple Apologist? My primary credit card is an apple card, primary dev machine is a mbp, primary work machine iPad, phone iPhone, watch Apple, and I have air tags attached to my dogs and wallet. In this ecosystem, I can reference _ANY_ of my screens for necessary and current relevant information whether it be curated or automated without breaking a glance to whatever primary device the content came f…

I understand airtagging a dog, but how do you fit one in your wallet? Are you worried about misplacing it in your home, leaving it behind somewhere else, or theft? I like airtags and use them myself, but never considered using it with a wallet.

I use Tile's Slim tracker. It has the footprint of two credit cards. Sucks the battery is not replaceable, but it's helped more often than I can count.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by JKCalhoun »

justapassenger wrote: post #161
JKCalhoun wrote: post #58

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I share your cynicism in general but not your degree of cynicism. Apparently, when prompted by the new iOS, 96% have opted out of tracking, not 1% as your comment would suggest. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/96-of-us-users-opt-o...

Having a prompt that says "Do you want X to do this scary sounding thing? Or not, and have 0 impact on you?" is worst possible way to do any kind of informed choice.

Not giving the user a choice is of course the worst possible way. If Apple makes it sound scary, maybe because it is? Certainly, the opposite is no better: "Hey, we just want to tailor ads to your lifestyle, mmm, good?"

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by mynameisvlad »

stale2002 wrote: post #160
mynameisvlad wrote: post #54

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Is Apple holding a gun to every person’s head saying “pay for Apple One or else”?

What they are doing is using anti-competitive practices, that go against the purpose of anti-trust laws and pro-competition laws.

How, exactly? Apple One is a subscription like any other. People can choose to get it or not.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by solarkraft »

count wrote: post #162
oezi wrote: post #126

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As a Android user who is lured by the appeal of the Apple Watch and the long update availability, I have recently found that the wall of the garden has gotten so high that it is harder to get in than thought: - there is no way to migrate messages from Signal messenger from Android to iOS - there is no way to synchronize Opera bookmarks from Android to iOS - SwiftKey keyboard can't sync my Android settings to iOS I mi…

The first rule of the walled garden is you play with Tim apples toys only. Signal, Opera and SwiftKey are 'guest' species inside the garden. (no, really, the apple experience is BY FAR better when you just use apple's stuff).

... and that's where antitrust should come in at some point. I like that Apple stuff works so well. I don't like that they very intentionally cripple other vendors.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by anotherOneSound »

> The numbers aren’t directly disclosed but reliable sources estimate tens of billions of dollars in net revenue

apple is the source[1] no estimating required. all publicly traded companies, required by law. some math is required, many videos on youtube detailing the process. it can be automated, JSON is available. they are called balance sheets, M.shkreli actually has a video series going through these [1]https://sec.report/CIK/0000320193

look for 10-Q, 10-K; quarterly, annual

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by labster »

tash9 wrote: post #82
dghlsakjg wrote: post #61

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The barometers combined with GPS and temp is an incredibly powerful sensor network. Its a shame that it is locked up inside of apple.

It's not that much better than the normal network of AMS sensors. For one, it doesn't give you wind speeds at various levels (critical for predicting weather). Second, it doesn't give you any additional readings over oceans, which is where the data is lacking in the current network of data. It does give you more robust surface temperature readings in cloudy areas but that doesn't really help you predict the weather s…

Yeah, but maybe Apple will take all of this private data, and then build their own GCM, and solve data assimilation for their new model … yeah right.

Let’s pretend that data from user portable devices isn’t garbage (it is): then what do you even do with it? In cities you’ll have thousands of readings per voxel none of which are more valuable. Then you have to clean your data, excluding data from inside or vehicles or hot pavement or heated patios and so on. Apple won’t go to the expense of running their own GCM, and I doubt even mesoscale models. All I could see is some sort of correlative AI, doing microscale adjustments to government sponsored models. So all of this work, and maybe you get one degree better at forecasts and a bit of nowcasting. And because it isn’t physics-based, you might occasionally get something very wrong happening.

The oceans are a data hole (technical term, really) as you mentioned, but the real missing data is above the surface. It’s too bad about Project Loon, because that would have been much more helpful to forecasting than a million monkeys wearing watches.

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