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Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by superdug »

Am I a realist on Apple Apologist?

My primary credit card is an apple card, primary dev machine is a mbp, primary work machine iPad, phone iPhone, watch Apple, and I have air tags attached to my dogs and wallet.

In this ecosystem, I can reference _ANY_ of my screens for necessary and current relevant information whether it be curated or automated without breaking a glance to whatever primary device the content came from.

I can air drop to my screens and other people in my family whenever I want to share anything from any of my devices.

It's a walled garden sure, but the toys in here are fantastic.

I also have Apple One service because of the iCloud storage alone between devices and Apple Music/News is actually a nice service.

So I guess I understand the "Oh no big company taking over more of my stuff that I think I should diversify because it seems like the right thing to do", but I guess I'm just too used to things just functioning well that I get over how "limited" I am.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by lm28469 »

SnowingXIV wrote: post #88
traceroute66 wrote: post #5

Honestly, for anyone who watches Apple close enough, this isn't news. Its clear Apple are heading down the disruptive disintermediation route. Look at the Air Tag. Effectively killing off competitors by making use of the global network of Apple devices. Look at their recent BNPL (buy now, pay later) announcement for example. Managing the whole caboodle, including the finance itself, entirely internally. Or look at th…

This would be an absolute dream, dealing with carriers has been hell since the beginning. I often do upgrade my phone, but it's been a huge hassle. Sometimes the promos don't work well and they basically wrap you into a contract anyways. I'm honestly just going to pay extra cash and upgrade directly through Apple even though the carrier offers a bigger credit. If I could cut them out all together and buy an iPhone an…

> dealing with carriers has been hell since the beginning.

Are you American by any chance ?

This has been solves in other places through regulations

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by dehrmann »

wbsss4412 wrote: post #56
intrasight wrote: post #28

> The unacknowledged Apple Car (the “Titan” project), Augmented Reality (AR) devices, and forays into the healthcare market, none of which is a feasible candidate So wrong. PDAs were replaced by smartphones. Smartphones will be replaced by AR glasses. It is the next big thing hardware-wise. Many new services will be built upon glasses and watches, and many will be health related. You'll still buy a phone - it'll have…

While I’m sure AR glasses are coming and will be popular, the notion that they’ll be so popular that smart phones won’t even have screens is particularly bold. Smartphones didn’t replace PDAs, most people didn’t have a PDA to replace. Smart phones replaced whole categories of devices and bundled them into one: cameras, camera phones, PDAs, MP3 players, watches, timers, alarm clocks etc. People keep looking for “the n…

There was definitely a long-term trend of computer shrinking. Room->closet->desk->lap->pocket, but I agree that future interaction models look completely different, and there isn't an obvious next step.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by verisimilitude »

robszumski wrote: post #68
gnicholas wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their new weather forecasting service is also intriguing. They will soon have millions of thermometer-equipped Apple Watches in the world (IIRC the Series 8 and AWU will have these), allowing them to create an incredibly detailed mapping of temperatures around the world (or at least places where people can afford expensive watches...).

I'm not sure what happened but Dark Sky went from awesome to awful in recent months after the Apple acquisition. Is it just me? Going from "no rain all day" to actively raining with a huge storm 2 hours later. The app does update with this info, but very close to the actual storm.

I too have noticed this. I believe the Dark Sky website and app will continue to become less accurate... I think the explanation is (somebody who knows more please correct me): Dark Sky's technology was acquired by Apple and integrated into the Apple Weather built-in app... and the decision was made that any improvements/updates/maintenance on the Dark Sky service itself are accessible exclusively through that Apple Weather app now. As a user of the Dark Sky website, I feel sad.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by lrhegeba »

alexb_ wrote: post #43
rootusrootus wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so that they can sell it for a markup If they start selling your data, they'll quickly eliminate the very market share that gives them such power. And why would they want to give up that data anyway? Better to use it themselves. A lot of people will accept the data collection as long as it doesn't go to third-party companies, we have ample evidence for that already.

>If they start selling your data, they'll quickly eliminate the very market share that gives them such power. No they absolutely will not. 99% of Apple users do not care about privacy. And when Apple does this, those users will find excuses to why it's okay.

Au contraire, see 96% of apple users who decided they do not want to be tracked if given the choice. You still may be right about apples behaviour later on, who knows, but your 99% feels somewhat, lets say, unsubstantiated

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by traceroute66 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #87
traceroute66 wrote: post #19

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> why do you call it disintermediation? Because Apple want to control the quality of the user experience. Right now Apple Hardware and Apple Software are tightly interlinked. Apple can do things in software because they design 100% of the hardware, and vice-versa. There's a lot of stuff Apple do in terms of quality of experience that's only possible because of that tight integration. Stuff that would be impossible to…

> Like the rest of the world, it has probably not escaped Apple's attention that the quality of service you get from the carriers is becoming rapidly worse by the day. In my experience, mobile connectivity just keeps getting better and better. I have lived on both US coasts and traveled to multiple developing countries, and even in places like Zimbabwe I had pretty great connectivity considering where I was.

> In my experience, mobile connectivity just keeps getting better and better.

To clarify ....

When I spoke of "quality of service" above, I didn't mean technical service (although for some carriers it can be a factor), I meant customer service.

I think you'll struggle to find anyone who will say their carrier's customer service has improved in recent years. Carrier customer service, irrespective of what country you live in, is generally globally accepted to only be in the "awful to non-existent" range.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by wbsss4412 »

mojuba wrote: post #85
wbsss4412 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I’m sure AR glasses are coming and will be popular, the notion that they’ll be so popular that smart phones won’t even have screens is particularly bold. Smartphones didn’t replace PDAs, most people didn’t have a PDA to replace. Smart phones replaced whole categories of devices and bundled them into one: cameras, camera phones, PDAs, MP3 players, watches, timers, alarm clocks etc. People keep looking for “the n…

> People keep looking for “the next big thing” and it just isn’t coming. Or... what if the next big thing is the phone becomes the computer, i.e. there will be no laptops? Imagine a device that you can connect to some peripherals including a monitor (possibly with its own GPU), then you undock it, put it in your pocket and move on to the next place - your home or your work with peripherals ready to use. Today it seem…

Convergence is something that’s been talked about for a long time, but I don’t see it being something the large consumer companies want to actually drive forward.

Looking at the direction of Apple/Microsoft/Google, they’d much rather sell you more devices and keep your data synced in cloud services than let you own in all in one unit locally, so that’ll probably be the main direction we go in.

The main exception will be in the indie/enthusiast/hacker space with devices like the pine phone/purism units.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by [deleted] »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #64
Aperocky wrote: post #3

> looked at possible candidates for Apple’s NBT (Next Big Thing), a product category that could launch an iPhone-like growth wave Is this what drove Facebook, a slowing but otherwise perfectly healthy cash cow into the disaster that is Metaverse? If Apple is going to do the same, my popcorn is ready.

Maybe the difference was that Facebook was a one-trick pony that, unlike Apple, soiled their brand rather than bolstered it?

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Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by stinkytaco »

traceroute66 wrote: post #75
Cipater wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would never have this kind of confidence in a corporation.

> I would never have this kind of confidence in a corporation. Meanwhile back on Planet Earth ..... Going by your argument you should not own any electronic device. Because you should not be trusting Intel/AMD to make your CPU because they might have put spyware in it .... Because you should not trust your keyboard manufacturer because they might have embedded a keylogger in it.... Because you should not trust your c…

I don't think "this is a problem for everyone" really precludes both informing people about the problem and hoping there is a solution to the problem. Just because Apple it "better", doesn't make it "good".

I personally feel some sort of regulatory framework around data collection and sales is not too much to ask.

Re: Apple’s next big thing: A business model change

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Post by CharlesW »

ibn_khaldun wrote: post #47

This was a nice, brief informative and insightful blog post. As a business model I understand what Apple is doing and can register the strategy as calculated. As an Apple consumer, I am not that interested. Sometime after inheriting a pair of AirPod Pros and an Apple Watch I started to feel strange. Then I booted OpenBSD on my own hardware for the first time the other day, straight into the shell and I feel changed b…

> The AirPods that dig into my ear canals and make me mistake audiobooks and podcasts for my own thoughts…

Neat, is that an iOS 16 feature?

But seriously, there are things you can do to reclaim your attention span. Here are a few:

https://medium.com/make-time/six-years-with-a-distraction-fr...

https://hulry.com/ios-15-focus-mode/

https://www.wired.com/story/grayscale-ios-android-smartphone...

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