I was beginning to wonder if I can disable globally by default and have no popups, just manually enable it for a specific site if I want it badly enough (I don't think I ever will anyway). Of course then they'll start showing weird UI pop ups to enable stuff, but if websites ever do that I will close them as I do with sites that tell me to disable adblock, the last few times I ever got malware on my system was due to…
User script that overrides the API to noop. :)
I'm just bummed the old greasemonkey site is gone (or whatever it was called), it feels awkward trying to find scripts now.
Downgrading the prompt to a non-popup icon in the address bar unless it follows a user action sounds like the perfect balance. This won’t entirely stop sites which are properly trying to request the permission in the worst case, and the navbar icon is unobtrusive enough that if it gets spammed it’s no big deal. Actually I think it makes sense to persistently show the notification icon in the navbar once the permissio…
Aren't there already sites that show a fake permission request dialog? This won't stop them (and I don't see how you could without entirely removing the feature).
Yeah there's nothing you can really do about those as they're created using arbitrary DOM elements. This cuts back on the permission prompt spam that takes place directly with the Firefox UI.
While we're at it, some sort of "always opt in or opt out of cookies" standard would be very nice. I'm really tired of sites asking for permission. Forcing companies to ask to use cookies was a mistake, cookies on/off should have been a browser feature first.
I'm still shocked that anybody thought the first generation implementation of this (in any browser, not specific to Firefox) was ever a good idea. I can see making the request visible to the end user, but... as a dialog ? Why? At least make it a narrow bar across the top/bottom that doesn't obscure web site content and can be easily ignored. Perhaps better would be to make it a button like there is a button to favori…
Agreed completely. - Why are dialogs still a thing? - Why is stealing focus still a thing? Browser makers, operating system manufacturers: Stop it. Dialogs are hot garbage, and users ALONE should have control over input focus. If you need the user's attention flash/animate. If you cannot make a thing without a dialog, focus lock, or focus theft then maybe the thing you were trying to make was inherently a bad idea. W…
While we're at it, some sort of "always opt in or opt out of cookies" standard would be very nice. I'm really tired of sites asking for permission. Forcing companies to ask to use cookies was a mistake, cookies on/off should have been a browser feature first.
It was ... it just wasn't really exposed except as "arcane configuration that 99.9% of users would never even know was there". This is why we, as an industry need to be proactive in putting the user first in decisions like this, because if we don't, it will get abused, and then that's when the regulation comes (and rightly so).
I had no idea wth you were talking about until you mentioned Visual Studio Installer, then I knew immediately what you meant. This is a huge problem for Windows and Mac.
Steam also has this problem in Linux, though that's the only program I can think of. Opening Steam results in three different windows stealing focus in sequence for no other reason than to tell you that Steam is in the process of opening.
4 for me. Updating, logging in, the client, and the ads.
I removed it from my panel just so I'd stop waiting for these if I misclicked it.
Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…
Nope, IM is my only use case too.
It's actually really irritating the number of random websites that immediately popup an obtrusive notification prompt - I can only guess that they are hoping people accidentally click on the wrong button, and don't know how to disable it...