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Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by rypskar »

krelian wrote: post #154

Maybe I missed it but I don't see a discussion about how the majority of sites are actually showing a "pre-prompt" for notifications before triggering the actual prompt from the browser. This is similar to how apps ask you to rate them using some internal UI and only if you rating is the desired one (5 stars) send you to the app store so you can rate them there. With the notifications a 3rd party script is used to di…

>>the majority of sites are actually showing a "pre-prompt" for notifications

Do a majority of sites do this? I have never seen it, but have seen the browser notification prompt several times

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by parkersweb »

Hmmm - I can see how this is a good thing for the notification permission (there are far too many news/blog sites starting with that request) - but it looks from what they're saying that microphone/camera will still use the old method. Won't that be a bit confusing?

As an aside I've often wondered why cookie permissions couldn't be moved to a similar model? It would create a much more consistent experience instead of the popup insanity we currently have across Europe...

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by corben »

LeonM wrote: post #133

Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…

We use them at https://hund.io for notifying of a change on a status page (we're a status page provider). Users have to subscribe to push in order to be prompted by the browser for permission.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by tinus_hn »

scoutt wrote: post #113

Notification requests are really saturating my patience. I appreciate the Mozilla/Firefox efforts for creating a user-first browser, with this and past features. I always avoided (or at least I try not) to provide any telemetry data, but in the case of Firefox, if these are the kind of improvements we may have, maybe I will opt-in for anon telemetry. Is the voting-with-your-wallet era moving into voting-with-your-tel…

It has always been that way. If you had one of these boxes that measured the channels you watch on tv, you had much more influence on what’s going to be on next year than other people. If you fill in an (anonymous) questionnaire about politica issues you have more influence on these issues than people who just cast one vote.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by birksherty »

nindalf wrote: post #95
birksherty wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't agree with that thinking. I can say the opposite. Why did someone enabled the notifications feature globally? Was it based on intuition? Then they are wrong, they are actually. They should collect data from all people before inserting any such "features".

What? You want them to “collect data from all people” on how they use a feature right now ... before adding the feature? How would that work, exactly? > they are actually. Ok.

I don't want that.

The previous comment said that if it's not based on telemetry, then the intuition based decision is wrong. I am suggesting that if that's the case then we have to use telemetry before implementing everything. We should never have any feature without telemetry confirming it first.

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by pastullo »

LeonM wrote: post #133

Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…

I agree with you sooooooo much! Those popups are extremely annoying and mostly used on useless SEO blog traps. The whole notification UI should be much less prominent. If you really want to enable those notification, they should let you opt-in

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by johnsea »

Good opportunity to voice my displeasure about the update notifications! Sorry, IT SUCKS!

It is really annoying that Firefox forces me to read about complex policy settings to avoid this. I have reasons not being able to update on a certain computer at certain times. (Already blocked the update checks, `# prevent Firefox update checks 127.0.0.1 aus5.mozilla.org`, but it seems I still have notifications).

Re: Reducing notification permission prompt spam in Firefox

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Post by EamonnMR »

LeonM wrote: post #133

Serious question though: has anyone here ever used the notifications for anything other than web based IM (slack, whatsapp)? I think the use case for legit notifications is very small, thus the UI should be an opt-in, rather than an intrusive pop-up. I never understood why browser makers gave it such a prominent UI, and of course in this attention seeking market it was bound to be abused. The new UI that Firefox is s…

Judging from the responses, I think the reason is that browser vendors want browsers to stay relevant in a world of Apps.
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