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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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> It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy. The Go subreddit was the only thing similar to human and it is downright painful most of the time. How lucky that their group happens to be the good one!

It's this line of thinking that makes me question their logic in suggesting this action.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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I think that the CEO of Reddit should step down. I believe that the odds of him getting caught for this were very small - So that begs the question; how many times did he pull this off in the past without anyone noticing?

The almost unnoticeable subtlety of the act is what I find most disturbing. It's not that the act was abominable (it could be worse). It's just that this position demands higher ethics than that - It needs someone with the right motivations.

I think people are too easy on CEOs; if a regular employee messes up, they get fired. Why doesn't this apply to executives?

We should be much tougher on executives... It's not like they'd lose their house or their family if they got fired.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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This exactly. I am more suprised and disappointed that subreddit survived long enough to let this "scandal" happen, than about the thing itself. A subreddit with a fraction of the userbase and activity than other subs would constantly have multiple posts on the frontpage at any given time, and noone cared to look into it or do something against it. I wouldn't be surprised if that sub beat out some default subs during…

There have been exactly ZERO r/The_Donald posts on the frontpage, ever. It is not and never was a default subreddit. You are talking about r/all, which almost no one browses according to the Reddit admins themselves. And as of a few months ago, at most 3-4 posts from any one subreddit are on each page of r/all. Why exactly should they be banned? I can't help but suspect that the real reason is that you want to silenc…

The main issue is that Reddit does not have a built-in way to filter out subreddits. There is a ton of uninteresting and offensive content on Reddit, and the only way I can use the site is to filter subreddits using Reddit Enhancement Suite. I like /r/all because it lets me discover new content outside of my subscriptions, but I can't read it on mobile or on other computers--without RES there is too much crap to wade through.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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This is about trust. If a space where a community gathers isn't trusted, core members of that community are going to want to leave. Trust is delicate. Trust is giving someone the power to do harm you or to misuse what you have given them, in the belief that they will not do those things. The trust has been shattered, and probably only the core members currently realise this. Those are the users for whom "this is our…

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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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The CEO of Google was busted by his emails for conspiring to suppress wages. WikiLeaks recently released a 2014 email[1] from Eric where he appears to conspire with the Clinton campaign/dnc to have "low paid permanent employees". [1] https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/37262 E: bots are out?

Your text is nearly white within 19 minutes of being posted. It's obvious HackerNews is not safe--from certain people.

More likely it's because the comment has nothing to do with editing users' content — unless it's meant to suggest that someone else faked Eric Schmidt's email (from the time 5+ years ago when he was CEO of Google) to incriminate him.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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> this is an industry in which a CTO would fire an employee for using proper English[0] I disagree with this being a fireable offense, but I read the post and this wasn't about using "proper" English, since both pronouns were correctly used. It was about using unnecessary gendered pronouns when a neutral one would be more inclusive (i.e. it's wrong to consider the user a "he"). Again, firing would be an overreaction…

> the neutral pronoun is equally correct from an English language perspective The neutral pronoun in English is 'it,' and using it to refer to a human being is always wrong. The use of singular they is in a few contexts correct, but in many more contexts incorrect. The use of 'he-or-she' is inelegant and incorrect, and the use of generic she is less incorrect than silly. Seriously, this is remarkably silly. 'Girl' in…

The English word for male human certainly isn't 'were'. It might have been some time in the long past, by in sure less than 5% of people know that now.

Language evolves (yes, I know that's a cheesy thing to say). I think many people do assume "he" is referring to a male -- there certainly seems to be a growing group week want to remove it's use in non-gendered context.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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I was the one who proposed deleting /r/golang. It is not some official Go or Google position. As much as I used to love Reddit and was addicted to it, my personal position is that Reddit is no longer a trustworthy platform (if it ever was). Editing user content is beyond offensive. I never even considered such a thing in my years of running LiveJournal. That is a major violation of user trust and trust in the platfor…

  > Now I'm brainstorming how one might build a federated Reddit
  > with public, signed mutation log, ala CT or other chains.
  > And then multiple UIs could render the same public &
  > federated data set.
~~~~~~~ begin wavy lines flashback ~~~~~~

NNTP + S/MIME

~~~~~~~ end wavy lines flashback ~~~~~~

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Willing to abuse it - that is conspiracy -. How do you know that something done once will repeat? Will google restart google buzz because they did it once? Will everyone jump ship to RoR because they did it before? I am doing everything I can not to create strawmen believe me, but your explanation simply does not cut it.

Because the power is there and it's tempting to use. Restarting Buzz may not have economic sense for Google, but abusing admin-edit powers has obvious value for the abusers and may be hard to catch if the abuser is not an idiot. "Opportunity makes a thief", and all.

But, realistically, the power is there on any site featuring user contributions - Hacker News, Twitter, Slashdot, etc. etc. Humans are fallible; given infinite time, the same thing will happen on those sites too, and probably worse. If you push someone hard enough (I don't know the full story, but I believe the CEO was provoked) they will lash out and do something stupid unless they are incredibly serene or lack any emotion.

If that possibility is too much of a concern, maybe we need to come up with an alternative - like some kind of decentralised, mass-distributed reddit-like. Actually, wasn't that usenet? Is it too late to get that back?

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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People were accusing him of being a pedophile because redit removed a subreddit that was involved in a conspiracy falsley accusing other people of being pedophiles. He changed the attribution of the accusation to be against the people doing the brigading.

Funny. They site says that they don't do that. Quoting from Reddit Help: Will you remove something defamatory about me or my friend? [0]: The best way to deal with incorrect information on the Internet is to post the correct information next to it. The reddit community is usually very supportive of such a response, and will likely vote to give the correction greater prominence than the original post. Redditors love a…

Witch hunts and brigading are also against their rules.
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