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Does it integrate with 3rd party chat clients like Adium or are you forced to have their tab/client open too?
You can connect to it using an IRC client, but you lose the ability to view history or make edits to posts
HipChat is probably under fire from Slack. That's why I think they are making this change, because I just made the transition a few weeks ago and Slack has been amazing. Once you go Slack, you never go back.
Does slack have native clients yet? And by native I mean a native application not a thin wrapper for a browser.
Last I tried HipChat, it was a terrible experience simply because I wanted to not run yet another application and instead use Adium. They do support XMPP but to get it working you have to do magic. After I did the magic, I had chat up and running but lo and behold: file transfers did not work. Thankfully, this is when our team decided the experiment was over. We went back to using IRC. What fundamental problem do the…
Persistence. It's nice to be able to see what conversations you missed while offline or overnight, especially if you have teammates distributed across the globe. Persistence also allows you to search through or link people to old conversations.
HipChat is probably under fire from Slack. That's why I think they are making this change, because I just made the transition a few weeks ago and Slack has been amazing. Once you go Slack, you never go back.
I disagree. We tried Slack on our 26-person team and left it after a week. It had a few fans, but most people found the interface to be more complex and noisy than HipChat. Lots of red icons and blue banners that could not be disabled. No ability to see at a glance who is in a room without clicking the list and scrolling through it. The integrations were nice and the search was amazing, but those things were less imp…
I went to HipChat instead but it's got its own problems. Weirdly you can choose to get notifications for all rooms you're in or none of them, but nothing in between. Very frustrating.
Do you guys worry about confidentiality with these services?
Yes. Every company I've worked for that had established (read not startups/not tiny) companies as customers could never use any thing like this due to contracts saying we won't be storing/transmitting their "stuff" on servers we do not control. [everyone hand waves email delivery but we can't use something like gmail]. These are tools for small / startup companies were you need something to just work and don't have r…
People are making the valid comparison of Hipchat and Slack, which is to be expected. But, this is a deeper move by Atlassian. Atlassian's business model is still "All roads lead to JIRA/Confluence." It's why so many of their products are free. This isn't as much a Hipchat v. Slack/IRC/Google/Campfire move, as adding another road to JIRA.
The beauty of Slack, IMO, is in the nice integrations with everything I already use . Does Hipchat/JIRA/Confluence do that? (I honestly don't know) For a small team, there's no reason (for us at least) to move away from Trello, GitHub issues, etc.
It's a shorter list and the Slack ones might be just better.
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For anyone else running into the same problem, I just copied my HipChat.app in /Applications, and ran the second hipchat next to the first hipchat (you can also change the second hipchat's icon for easy distinguishment). It's not perfect (upon logout/restart it still remembers the preferences for the other instance), but it solved 90% of my hassle.
You can also do in the terminal: hipchat --detach &
open -n /path/to/application.app
-n Open a new instance of the application(s) even if one is already running.Reminder: https://blog.hipchat.com/2014/04/25/hey-were-changing-our-te... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7649524
Garret from HipChat here. The previous discussion on this topic made a lot of assumptions about this change, so I'd like to quote some additional detail from our help doc ( http://help.hipchat.com/knowledgebase/articles/358098 ) before the same happens here; In order for an organization to access 1-1 chats occurring after May 27, 2014 or later, the organization will need to make a request by emailing support@hipchat.…