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Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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HipChat is probably under fire from Slack. That's why I think they are making this change, because I just made the transition a few weeks ago and Slack has been amazing. Once you go Slack, you never go back.

Does slack have native clients yet? And by native I mean a native application not a thin wrapper for a browser.

Yeah, the Android native version is amazing. I know there's an ios one too.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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post #3

HipChat is probably under fire from Slack. That's why I think they are making this change, because I just made the transition a few weeks ago and Slack has been amazing. Once you go Slack, you never go back.

I disagree. We tried Slack on our 26-person team and left it after a week. It had a few fans, but most people found the interface to be more complex and noisy than HipChat. Lots of red icons and blue banners that could not be disabled. No ability to see at a glance who is in a room without clicking the list and scrolling through it. The integrations were nice and the search was amazing, but those things were less imp…

I wrote this:

https://github.com/cjbarber/hipchat-alternatives/

I while back.

This move by HipChat makes me happy.

I've attempted to move over, but HipChat is far superior for my needs.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried http://Kato.im ? They're the only product which supports multiple organizations in the same client -- and it's done in a really powerful way that doesn't force you to switch between orgs. You could have one or four open and still communicate effectively.

Flowdock also supports multiple organizations in one client.

It's true (and great!), but you can't see two conversations from two different organizations at the same time - have to click.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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post #111
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does slack have native clients yet? And by native I mean a native application not a thin wrapper for a browser.

Yeah, the Android native version is amazing. I know there's an ios one too.

The Android version has not been amazing for me. It crashes several times a day, switching rooms is clumsy and slow, and the push notifications arrive minutes after I've already replied to a message, so the phone is constantly buzzing for things I've already replied.

Additionally, there's no native Windows client.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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post #52

People are making the valid comparison of Hipchat and Slack, which is to be expected. But, this is a deeper move by Atlassian. Atlassian's business model is still "All roads lead to JIRA/Confluence." It's why so many of their products are free. This isn't as much a Hipchat v. Slack/IRC/Google/Campfire move, as adding another road to JIRA.

The beauty of Slack, IMO, is in the nice integrations with everything I already use . Does Hipchat/JIRA/Confluence do that? (I honestly don't know) For a small team, there's no reason (for us at least) to move away from Trello, GitHub issues, etc.

HipChat has a nice API that allows us to shoot notifications from TribeHR, our Linux production boxes, code commits, Salesforce, etc. to our company-wide channels. It's a nice communication tool to use to keep the whole team on the same page.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

#116
post #52

People are making the valid comparison of Hipchat and Slack, which is to be expected. But, this is a deeper move by Atlassian. Atlassian's business model is still "All roads lead to JIRA/Confluence." It's why so many of their products are free. This isn't as much a Hipchat v. Slack/IRC/Google/Campfire move, as adding another road to JIRA.

The beauty of Slack, IMO, is in the nice integrations with everything I already use . Does Hipchat/JIRA/Confluence do that? (I honestly don't know) For a small team, there's no reason (for us at least) to move away from Trello, GitHub issues, etc.

HipChat integrates with Jira/Confluence/BitBucket/Bamboo et al. It is the only reason we are using it vs a host of tools sticky taped together with different interfaces.

As your team growths you will see the value in having a single unified set of tools that cover a majority of your needs vs a host of different tools chained together each providing a different experience, education and logins.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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post #21

My biggest issue with HipChat is the inability to run multiple organizations on the same client. The video and audio "premium" features are really a terrible idea as there's Skype, Google Hangouts, UberConference, and similar for that and they are free and core businesses and Atlassian cannot and should not attempt to compete with those!

"multiple organizations on the same client" - that would be a super addition. HipChat ultimately could be used both as a business tool (esp. for contractors) and also a personal closed environment network communication tool.

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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Last I tried HipChat, it was a terrible experience simply because I wanted to not run yet another application and instead use Adium. They do support XMPP but to get it working you have to do magic. After I did the magic, I had chat up and running but lo and behold: file transfers did not work. Thankfully, this is when our team decided the experiment was over. We went back to using IRC. What fundamental problem do these new chat protocols solve that are not already addressed by IRC and XMPP?

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

#119
post #21

My biggest issue with HipChat is the inability to run multiple organizations on the same client. The video and audio "premium" features are really a terrible idea as there's Skype, Google Hangouts, UberConference, and similar for that and they are free and core businesses and Atlassian cannot and should not attempt to compete with those!

"multiple organizations on the same client" - that would be a super addition. HipChat ultimately could be used both as a business tool (esp. for contractors) and also a personal closed environment network communication tool.

Yup! This would even put Skype to shame as you can separate personal from business. It also works for people who work on different projects part time, so, you don't have to remember to log out to log in. :)

Re: HipChat is now free for unlimited users

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Last I tried HipChat, it was a terrible experience simply because I wanted to not run yet another application and instead use Adium. They do support XMPP but to get it working you have to do magic. After I did the magic, I had chat up and running but lo and behold: file transfers did not work. Thankfully, this is when our team decided the experiment was over. We went back to using IRC. What fundamental problem do the…

The fundamental problem they "solve" is to be more hip and cool than the last, since no regular human being has heard of IRC, let alone many "hardcore programmers" that I know.

I wish IRC was overhauled SOMEHOW and made more accessible to the common person.

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