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I have a full sized van. I know how much is costs to drive it. That's also why I own a Prius. I see men commuting in late model pickups down 880 and I think it'd be the same as me tossing a dollar bill out the window every mile.
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It's a pretty natural response to highlight concerns if something is being shoved down your throat.
> shoved down your throat This nearly always means "mentioned" rather than any kind of coercion. The ICE phaseout is still something like a decade away at the most optimistic in Europe and much, much further away in the US.
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However the 6PPD used in tyres appears to be very toxic to some marine life and the tyre pollution gets washed off from the roads into rivers etc. It's the toxicity that's the issue. Poisoning the oceans does not seem like a good strategy for the human race. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6PPD
Probably quite hard to detect the effects of that particular chemical underneath all the over-fishing, which is why the concern only appears when people are talking about EVs rather than back in the 1970s when it was introduced.
It's definitely an issue with ICE and EVs, but is often brought up in EV discussions as people get the impression that EVs are "pollution free" due to their lack of exhaust emissions. Also, EVs tend to produce more tyre dust due to their slightly heavier weight and increased torque.
Incidentally, a small Chinese study found 6PPD and 6PPDQ in human urine in low concentrations. We don't currently know what health effects, if any that may have.
Anybody who ever driven an EV, would have told that the initial scare about brake dust was pure nonsense. EVs barely use frictional brakes, with regen performing most of the braking action. Frictional brakes only really come into play to slow down from around ~5 mph to a complete stop. And even that can be eliminated by essentially running the motor backwards, at low torque. This mode of braking is sometimes used on…
How does this generally work wrt brakes needing to be used occasionally to not rust shut? Even with an ICE car if you don't drive a lot, and drive in a fuel efficient way (e.g. coasting towards red lights) this can be an issue resulting in an expensive surprise when you need to replace disks long before they are worn out.
They fixed it by having the software to apply frictional brakes once in a while to keep the rotors clean.
I have an EV with 150k miles, and the brake pads are barely worn. They are going to outlast it.
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Regular exercise is absolutely important. Mixing it with transportation is a recipe for arriving covered in sweat (and, often, rain).
That's why people only bike in sunny countries, like the Netherlands or Denmark.
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It'd be well worth aiming to include some active travel (e.g. walking) in your daily schedule as otherwise you may think that you're saving time by parking so close, but you're really shortening your lifespan with an increased chance of sedentary diseases.
Regular exercise is absolutely important. Mixing it with transportation is a recipe for arriving covered in sweat (and, often, rain).
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Yep. Transit was invented to help move workers from massive factories into living areas. Definitely a 20-th century thing. And EVs are from the 21-st century. They are here to fix the utter inhumanity of dense cities, and eventually throw them into a dustbin of history.
EVs are just a change in fuel, nothing else changes, it's ludicrous to think they will solve anything related to why cities become denser, I can't even comprehend the logical steps you have to take to think that. Dense cities exist because there's value in living close by to other amenities provided by dense cities. There's no way out of denser cities, amenities will pool around where more people live just by sheer e…
> There's no way out of denser cities
There is: tax dense office space. There are no magically unique "amenities" in dense cities that make life worth living there, for the vast majority of people. Theaters and museum visits are at most a monthly occurrence (if that). And specialty ethnic restaurants are usually not a deal-breaker.
Everything else is now available online: specialty stores, interesting classes, art-house movie clubs, etc.
Brake dust is such nasty stuff, yet we place schools and homes right next to the rivers of pollution that we call highways. I'm hopeful that we will legalize the building of less car-dependent housing, but until then at least EVs will help.
Exactly. EVs are a band-aid, but the true cure is simply viable alternatives to driving .
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Europe has plenty of gardeners and construction projects too, but I see at most one pickup truck per decade and it is always someone who definitely doesn’t need one and drives like they’re in a mad max movie. If you think all truck owners actually need one, count how many of the ones you see are carrying some load and do the math.
> If you think all truck owners actually need one, count how many of the ones you see are carrying some load and do the math. Okay, let's do the math. Suppose you need a truck once a week and it costs $100 to rent one. To rent one would then be $400/mo, which you haven't got. You could buy both a truck and a car and only use the truck once a week, but between payment and insurance then that's again several hundred a…
Either you do need a truck for work and then you get an actual work vehicle and not a tough guy cosplay like a dodge ram, or you don't and you shouldn't get one, or at least you should pay out of your ass for the increasing danger, road damage, pollution, etc.
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It is amazing how much concern trolling there is about EVs on a site like this.
One has to wonder who creates a fresh account just to troll against EVs. Fossil bots perhaps.