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Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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HN itself? No All the startups/sites that everyone on here runs? Absolutely You don't even have to go 100% dark, you can just have a splash telling your users about SOPA. You need to realize

Perhaps on that day, HN blacks out all normal content and instead just features a list of all the sites that have gone black in protest? Could let users submit URLs to be added to the list.

Agree with that. Besides featuring the list of sites gone black in protest, HN could also display pointers to effects of SOPA (for non-regular HN visitors), contact info for Congress representatives.

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HN itself? No All the startups/sites that everyone on here runs? Absolutely You don't even have to go 100% dark, you can just have a splash telling your users about SOPA. You need to realize

Perhaps on that day, HN blacks out all normal content and instead just features a list of all the sites that have gone black in protest? Could let users submit URLs to be added to the list.

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Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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This is retarded. You go dark to make users who would otherwise not know about SOPA realize how bad an idea it is.

No one using hackernews fits that description.

I am in favor of a wikipedia or perhaps even a google blackout. HN needs a blackout about as much as an anti-SOPA blog.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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1) The more sites decide to shut down on the 18th, the easier it becomes for major websites like Google, Twitter, and Facebook to join. It also increases the chances that this is going to be covered by the mainstream media. 2) Perhaps a blackout will give some HNers the final push (and time) to make some phone calls to their representatives. 3) It can serve as a demonstration of what the web will be like if SOPA kick…

>> 2) Perhaps a blackout will give some HNers the final push (and time) to make some phone calls to their representatives. I think far more effective than a complete blackout would be requiring HNers contact their representatives before they can access HN content. Not sure how best to implement, but a email form that grants a token upon completion should be feasible (you'd need to decide how to handle non-US based IP…

Ironically, the reason this won't work is the same reason SOPA won't: proxies. HN is one of the largest gatherings of hackers anywhere; give us a break.

That's in addition to the fact that it's consensus that emails aren't worth a damn here.

And also the fact that it would take significant wasted effort to implement.

If PG did something like this, I'd lose all respect.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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I wanted to vote no, because it seems so Pyrrhic, maybe a little gimmicky: "See, we shut down a site you don't use!" But if you're asking people to make a sacrifice you're not willing to make yourself, you're a bad leader, period. I'm not saying HN is the bastion of the tech world. But if we're upvoting the Reddit shutdown (at least I did), and we can't turn around and do it ourselves, well, we're not made of very to…

I don't think it's gimmicky at all. There's a very real threat that SOPA or whatever comes after that will de juro or de facto allow old media to end the internet as we know it. Blacking out sites ahead of that only helps illustrate to people the harm the law will do.

I say come january 18th HN should either black out, or focus discussion on SOPA entirely in solidarity with reddit.

HN is a niche community with members who have a much greater capacity to influence the outcome of SOPA than a general populace. In some sense, a black out would inhibit the community's ability to affect change with respect to the issue.

If every active member of HN pledged to spend their available resources on the 18th towards working on SOPA, I suspect the outcome could have effects reaching further than even the championed reddit black out.

It's mostly a matter of deciding to place our money where our mouths are and collaborating effectively.

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