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Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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Anyone who cares about Hacker News already opposes SOPA. Anyone who supports SOPA would be glad to see Hacker News down for a day. What's the point of shutting down Hacker News again?

I think it's supposed to be for solidarity. It's not to raise awareness on HN as much as show that we are right there with the others.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#14
Between the "preaching to the choir" and "solidarity" arguments, I basically come out even. But I think HN, being fairly low-profile to mainstreamers and very much full of our SOPA-fearing choir, could serve as the place that we can rely on to continue having an intelligent conversation w/r/t SOPA while everything else is blacked out.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#15
I've seen a lot of people argue that sites like Hacker News shouldn't engage in a protest like this on the grounds that most of its audience probably already supports the protest's cause. I think this is a fundamentally flawed view about the nature of protesting.

It is without question that the most effective protests are those that have direct impacts on the opposition and its supporters, but protesting is bigger than that. It is about trying to be heard just as much as it is about being heard. It is about speaking your mind and standing behind things you believe in even when your protest may fall on deaf ears.

For that reason, the overwhelming amount of people within the Hacker News community that oppose SOPA is the perfect reason TO join in the protest.

I would miss Hacker News for the day, but I would take great pride in being a part of a community that stands up for what it believes in.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#16
post #6

HN could go dark with Reddit to see what happens when nerds have nowhere to hang out.

I think Paul Graham and the Admins of Reddit should go around Silicon Valley and ask to be paid to take HN and Reddit down for the last three weeks of every quarter.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#17
It's a symbolic gesture. I believe this leads to a fundamental question of whether it's essential to the kind of political movement we represent.

So for instance democrats depend on notion of symbolic representation to ground their concept of political representation. Without the former, the latter becomes vacuous.

"What kind of advantage does it give us?" seems to be the question. Perhaps it's a moral boost? In the political game, it technically says nothing. In perhaps our own schema of doing things, it technically says nothing. But the idea that people use these tools and can intentionally limit themselves (like with Freedom, the app that locks yr Internet connection) to represent freedom.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#18

Everyone is going to say how this is preaching to the choir. But I think it's good if it goes black so the largest news media has even more of a story. It's one thing if just Reddit goes black, that will be a big news story. But it's another thing if many sites on the internet go black. Come to think of it, I may do this with my website as well. It's no hacker news or Reddit, but it's a good day to do it.

reddit is down all day multiple times a year and it's never a "big news story"

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#19

1) The more sites decide to shut down on the 18th, the easier it becomes for major websites like Google, Twitter, and Facebook to join. It also increases the chances that this is going to be covered by the mainstream media. 2) Perhaps a blackout will give some HNers the final push (and time) to make some phone calls to their representatives. 3) It can serve as a demonstration of what the web will be like if SOPA kick…

What he said on all accounts.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#20
post #18

Everyone is going to say how this is preaching to the choir. But I think it's good if it goes black so the largest news media has even more of a story. It's one thing if just Reddit goes black, that will be a big news story. But it's another thing if many sites on the internet go black. Come to think of it, I may do this with my website as well. It's no hacker news or Reddit, but it's a good day to do it.

reddit is down all day multiple times a year and it's never a "big news story"

According to that logic, it wouldn't matter either if Twitter, Google Apps, Blackberry Messenger, iCloud+Siri, and Dropbox were to shut down for the day...
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