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Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

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Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#51
You make symbolic gestures because ... they're symbolic.

They're going to be recognized directly by those who utilize whatever it is that's being sacrificed.

And more widely, reporting on the issue (because that's where the symbolism hits the road, so to speak), is going to take note that "demonstrating support and solidarity with the anti-SOPA movement, numerous websites, including went dark for the day". For HN to be in that list will add to its weight. At least somewhat.

And, well, we're all talking about this. Here on HN. Go do something useful and have this debate elsewhere.

Hrm: Perhaps I should petition Krell Power Systems to go dark in support. But man is that power-up sequence a pain afterwards.

You know what? It's still worth it.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#52
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I'm all for raising awareness, but many of the articles surfacing here over the past few weeks have been SOPA related and taking down the whole site to put up one message may actually reduce the amount of SOPA/PIPA-related information people are reading. For reference, all SOPA related articles on HN: http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/all&q=SOPA

Maybe instead of "going dark" that should be what the homepage redirects to for that day. That way it raises awareness and provides reading material.

I think it is safe to assume that everyone on HN is fully aware of SOPA by now.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#53
It's whistling in the dark.

The people who know about SOPA, or should know about SOPA, don't frequent HN. They use Google and Facebook.

The people who are in charge of legislating SOPA, or voting on it, are similarly not effected. I think Wikipedia should black out each legislator's page with a big "SOPA WILL CENSOR THE INTERNET" notice. That will get the attention of the 6 o'clock news more than some evil hacker news site doing a "protest". After all, what senator's ego could bear having their Wikipedia page defaced?

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#54
I say Yay...

Protests are heard the loudest when more people join them. I get that us being down isn't quite as informative to the public as say, facebook going down or google dropping out for a day but as other have already stated if we join others are more likely to follow.

It's the classic timid group effect (I doubt that's what it's actually called.) You know, when there are ten people being asked to volunteer an answer to a question, and no one answers until that one guy raises his hand, then suddenly everyone else has something to say. We need to be part of the first, not for us but to get others to throw their voices (or in this case, 0's and 1's.) behind the cause.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#55
post #24

No because anyone who already reads HN already knows SOPA. The only thing that will be effective is if sites that normal non-tech people visit go dark.

Agreed, shutting down a website that no one in congress reads, knows about, or would care about even if they knew seems pointless to me.

If you want to have real effect continue (or start) to write your congress-person, educate your friends, and pressure them into doing the same. Post on Facebook, twitter, etc.

Compared to these real actions, shutting down HN is useless pageantry.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#57
post #12

HN itself? No All the startups/sites that everyone on here runs? Absolutely You don't even have to go 100% dark, you can just have a splash telling your users about SOPA. You need to realize

Perhaps on that day, HN blacks out all normal content and instead just features a list of all the sites that have gone black in protest? Could let users submit URLs to be added to the list.

Re: Poll: Do you think HN should go dark in protest of SOPA?

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't HN becoming enough like Reddit already with the kind of stories that are posted? Last thing we need are the redditors then it's Reddit 2.0.

"If your account is less than a year old, please don't submit comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. (It's a common semi-noob illusion.)" http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://jacquesmattheij.com/The+Unofficial+HN+FAQ#shark

Okay.

My account is plenty old, and HN is most certainly seeing a lot more reddit-like posts. Honestly I think the downturn started about the time we lost the ability to see comment points in threads.

I think dropping the comment points was a reaction to the downturn.

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