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Re: Apple is working on iPhone features to help detect depression, cognitive decline

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Post by sangnoir » Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 9:34 PM UTC

ashtonkem wrote: post #154

sangnoir wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Less than 24 hours ago, the top story on HN was a tranche of iOS 0-days released by a whitehat who got frustrated by Apple's mismanagement of its bug bounty program. So it's open season on that afib data right now...

It does not follow that 0 days mean every piece of information in apple’s control will be stolen. Historically apple 0 days have been used to target high level targets, usually journalists, and not appropriate (or usable) for removing all data from all iPhones. Something Apple should fix, sure. But not something that I’m going to delete all my Apple Health data for.

> It does not follow that 0 days mean every piece of information in apple’s control will be stolen

You're correct in general, but not in this specific instance. If you followed the said thread, you'd have encountered the disbelief that Apple stores health data unencrypted on the iPhone, despite FIPS certification for the watch. Every 0-day, as it stands today, can result in access to health data, until Apple adopts defense in depth.

Re: Apple is working on iPhone features to help detect depression, cognitive decline

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Post by sifar » Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 6:39 AM UTC

concinds wrote: post #86

A little dismayed that the sci-fi "tech futurism" attitude of previous decades is now a beaten, lifeless corpse. Opt-in health features that give you more control over your health? World-ending! But 20 years ago, we were imagining a little wristband-type machine that would be able to non-invasively and routinely analyse blood samples, detecting cancer a decade early, increasing human lifespans, etc. This pattern is a…

I too, am that person, real not hypothetical.

I use a dumb phone, ride a bicycle, use music cds. I refuse to use smart anything, even though my work goes into many of the smartphones and other devices.

>> laws will be passed, corporations will be pressured by social media campaigns, and the state of the world will remain "mostly acceptable" just like today. Why the endemic pessimism?

It is because of the pervasive lack of agency. Increasingly, I am getting tracked/registered/surveilled for everything. And if I don't comply, I am an outlier.

If you would compare "mostly acceptable" from a few decades ago to today I think there would be many differences.

Just because things are normalized doesn't mean they should be acceptable.

I have come to the realization that it is pointless to depend on companies bent on exploiting you, to build devices that you want. You have to do it yourself and we have that capability now.

Re: Apple is working on iPhone features to help detect depression, cognitive decline

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Post by captainredbeard » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 5:16 PM UTC

genewitch wrote: post #113

captainredbeard wrote: post #105

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> buying shit on Amazon at 2am, etc. You're at the pub more often, and drinking more Okay, some simple guidance, you don't need anyone (or anything) but yourself to do this: don't stay up past midnight. If you do, the next day you must wear blue light blocking glasses for 4 hours and drink extremely strong chamomile tea. This will kill most mania/hypomania, something often triggered by sleep variance. Do not drink. W…

Your comment is basically "have you tried not doing that?" You can't get out of a serotonin issue with chamomile tea and a blue light filter. "Having trouble sleeping? Just go to sleep earlier!" I can't even.

What I described actually works. Sorry it triggered you.

> I can't even.

Your eloquence with the English language is unmatched.

Re: Apple is working on iPhone features to help detect depression, cognitive decline

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Post by captainredbeard » Fri, Oct 01, 2021, 5:18 PM UTC

genewitch wrote: post #113

captainredbeard wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> buying shit on Amazon at 2am, etc. You're at the pub more often, and drinking more Okay, some simple guidance, you don't need anyone (or anything) but yourself to do this: don't stay up past midnight. If you do, the next day you must wear blue light blocking glasses for 4 hours and drink extremely strong chamomile tea. This will kill most mania/hypomania, something often triggered by sleep variance. Do not drink. W…

Your comment is basically "have you tried not doing that?" You can't get out of a serotonin issue with chamomile tea and a blue light filter. "Having trouble sleeping? Just go to sleep earlier!" I can't even.

> You can't get out of a serotonin issue with chamomile tea and a blue light filter.

BTW, bipolar disorder involves disregulation of dopamine, increased serotonin will trigger mania. If you knew anything about this topic you would know that. But I went against the pharma state and its indoctrinates, I must be punished lol.