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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Ads on YouTube have become annoying enough to make me hesitate before following a link to the site. I really wonder how much further they can push this without either driving users to using ad blockers or creators to upload to other platforms. Unfortunately, I suspect the answer is "pretty long"...

Unfortunately, I suspect the answer is "pretty long"...

I'm not so sure.

I'm only a casual viewer of YouTube. I don't engage in any of the account-based stuff, just watch the occasional video hosted there. But even in the content I've seen, it's clear that the semi-pro creators -- the kind of people using schemes like Patreon these days, and maybe placements as they get more successful -- are very aware of how they come across.

In particular, they might already be hosting their content on multiple services, particularly those who livestream events of whatever kind, where they might stream on Twitch one day and YT the next. Those who are successful enough to make significant money from their videos are well aware of anything affecting their video quality, audience numbers, and ultimately revenue.

I doubt many of them will have any great loyalty to YT if it becomes too awkward or expensive, and I'm sure many of them already have accounts on other services and the bulk of their followers would know where else to find them if YT shut down their accounts overnight.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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post #107

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I wonder how long YT will tolerate those in-video ads when YT Premium is supposed to allow for an ad-free experience. I'm also curious as to how the advertisers and YT channels come up with pricing. The advertisers will have no metrics on how often the ad was skipped over, and maybe it's a coincidence, but the channels seem to keep the in-video ad lengths to integer multiples of 'skip 10 seconds' button presses.

I’m curious why it’s not a feature of YT Premium to just auto-skip over the parts videos marked as being sponsored content (which the video creator has always needed to annotate the video with for legal reasons — it’s currently shown as a yellow-shaded area on the video timeline bar.) Heck, I’m surprised and confused that YT hasn’t just required these embedded ads to be separated out into their own video streams, whi…

I found this one on HN (I think yesterday?) https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Your phone doesn't allow you to run a browser that would let you use an adblocker.

Android has Firefox which has uBlock, as well as Firefox Focus. iOS has VPN based ad blocking compatible with Safari, I use AdGuard.

Or Musi for watching YT videos. Ad-free!

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Easy? Good luck replacing all your accounts and contacts using your @gmail.com email. You'll move to another provider but you'll need to keep the old GMail one around for a long time before you're safe deleting it.

Been using a different mail provider for 5 years. Just the other month google deleted my gmail account (had it set up to delete after a year of no-login) It is quite easy to migrate: 1. get a new mail account 2. forward everything from your gmail account 3. sort everything GMail into a separate folder in your new account 4. slowly change email addresses in accounts and let people know your new address. I think after…

Might I ask what password manager you use? And what do you do when you need to access websites from a machine that isn't yours? Also, did you consider the single-point-of-failure argument? I would like to know your opinion on that.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Youtube doesn't force you to watch ads. Pay for Youtube Premium and you will see no ads.

Thats sounds a lot like extorsion.

You know what they say. If you're not paying for the product, then you probably are the product.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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post #118

As a content consumer I see this as a positive thing for me. A few months ago when YouTube decided to auto-add ads on all videos, my watch time on YouTube decreased by more than 50% since I consume all video content on either my phone or my tablet (where I don't have access to AdBlock), and I find the amount of ads I have to go through to watch a video so annoying that I'd rather not watch it at all. As a result I sp…

Have you considered paying for YouTube Premium?

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

#169

I get why people are mad that something that exists is changing, though at this point I've stopped being surprised when something that was free either stops being free or has the free offering diminished. This particularly was a very weird setup where if you didn't want a share of ad revenue, you got to use the service completely for free. While Google offers ad free YouTube to users, it'd be nice if they offered a w…

This sort of thing needs to attract anti-competitive scrutiny at some point. Give away something for free, drive your competitors away, then raise prices is a text book anti-competitive move.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Why not pay for Youtube Premium? We're often talking about how we would gladly pay to keep a sustainable product going on but people are outraged that a _free_ service is increasing monetization through ads. I think Youtube is great, it's where I find a lot of content, I use it a lot and not seeing ads makes a huge difference. Plus, Youtube Music is great value for the price.

I used to pay for YouTube premium. But I left and switched to adblocking after it kept getting worse (YouTube is one of the few sites that I use an adblocker on). - YouTube Music is awful, not a halfway decent product to replace the good Play Music. - Stopped sending emails for video uploads (I know, I'm weird) - "Premier" videos started to be shown in the RSS feeds. So now I am notified of stuff I can't even watch y…

> Half the time videos just play at 360p even though I have never had a second of buffering on my 500Mpbs connection.

Weird. I have a 50Mbps connection and get 1080p minimum on everything I watch. I like to use YT Music for discovery but not a full listening experience. Over all, YTP has really improved content discovery for me. Ad free makes it easy to find out which videos are BS.

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