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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by rileyteige »

colejohnson66 wrote: post #36
krageon wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At first I thought you had a point (and for practical purposes, perhaps you do) but I don't think it'd be particularly challenging to inject video frames into a stream without re-encoding the original video.

It’s not challenging.[a] ffmpeg can “join” streams back-to-back without reencoding if one desires. [a]: This is assuming you know the magic incantation to get ffmpeg to do it

if anyone has the resources to figure out this magic incantation, it would be Google.

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Post by randlet »

secondcoming wrote: post #59
randlet wrote: post #32

Most of the creators I watch are switching to a combination of Patreon and in-video advertising "reads" (have you heard about Kiwi Co?!?) both of which cut Google out of the equation so it's not too surprising to me Google is cranking up the dial on their own advertisements.

I wonder how long YT will tolerate those in-video ads when YT Premium is supposed to allow for an ad-free experience. I'm also curious as to how the advertisers and YT channels come up with pricing. The advertisers will have no metrics on how often the ad was skipped over, and maybe it's a coincidence, but the channels seem to keep the in-video ad lengths to integer multiples of 'skip 10 seconds' button presses.

"The advertisers will have no metrics on how often the ad was skipped over"

Lots of the advertisements ask you to visit a custom URL or use a discount code which the advertisers can use as lower bound on how effective an advertisement is.

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Post by lopis »

Shorel wrote: post #49
cableshaft wrote: post #4

I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…

But also if enough of them move to a new platform, this will hugely boost that platform. If they can coordinate their efforts of course. It is a big if.

Standard [0] tried that with mediocre results. Even some of the founders left.

[0] standard.tv

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Post by mecha_love »

superkuh wrote: post #15

Bait and switch. This is what big companies do. They buy products that are a threat to them, or allow them to address the threat of another company. Then they offer the bought company's services for free for a period. Then it ends. The point is to kill competition so they can settle in and collect rent.

true that. Amazon is a perfect example

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Post by nacs »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #16

Please use newpipe if you are on android. Your watching ads of your favourite small youtuber wont get them paid anyways because of this so make your experience a bit cleaner. Use newpipe. Also, start looking into peertube. While its still long ways from a competing software, its going strong and the more people join it, the better will be the network effect.

Not sure why this is downvoted but this kind of thing is a good example for why I'm glad things like peertube exist.

Youtube was down for a few hours a couple days ago and thats when I realized that just about every video on the internet is now exclusively hosted on Youtube.

Even visiting the homepage of some sites, they'll have a Youtube "Here's what our product is"-type video that was no longer working.

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Post by btreecat »

zinekeller wrote: post #45
thirteenfingers wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Examples? Happy to be proven wrong on this.

> Edit: I've realised that many of you are using some sort of ad-blocker, so you might not felt the changes when it was (silently) rolled out years ago, but this is from my experience using YouTube on devices which I cannot install an ad-blocker (like in some instructional videos for certain robots which some companies decided to use YouTube for). I do not have definite proof for this, as I said on the top comment it…

>1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjl9CpAirtE

I pulled up a private browser session to make sure I was not logged in, and the video was served ad free.

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Post by oarsinsync »

ekianjo wrote: post #38
lordnacho wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like he's suggesting that you'll soon be required to pay for it.

You are already paying for it with massive crawling of your personal information.

Are there any events over the last decade that leads to believe either of these are true?

1/ if you're paying with money, you won't have to pay with personal information

2/ if you're paying with personal information, you wont later have to pay some other way as well

Monopolies (or near monopolies) like to double-dip. A good example of this is net-neutrality. You already pay to be a customer of your ISP, and for your ISP to provide you with Internet access. Your ISP stands to profit even more if they can charge the rest of the Internet for supplying that access to you.

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Post by gtirloni »

Why not pay for Youtube Premium? We're often talking about how we would gladly pay to keep a sustainable product going on but people are outraged that a _free_ service is increasing monetization through ads.

I think Youtube is great, it's where I find a lot of content, I use it a lot and not seeing ads makes a huge difference. Plus, Youtube Music is great value for the price.

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Post by vlozko »

I don't understand why people are up in arms about this. It's as if people want their cake and eat it, too. Yes, I'm aware of questionable practices that YouTube does, such as monitizing off of dead people, but I'm still astounded that people are upset about this change. Specifically, I'm referring to the expectation that one can upload a video - for free - and allow it be distributed with millions of views to the world - for free - and without ads. Google's revenue model as always been ads so this change shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. And judging from Google's latest quarterly financial results on YouTube's ads success, I'm personally confused why this wasn't done sooner.

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Post by leipert »

1_player wrote: post #41
wolco2 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail It's the one service easily replaced. If they go this route the internet will be a more decentralized place

Easy? Good luck replacing all your accounts and contacts using your @gmail.com email. You'll move to another provider but you'll need to keep the old GMail one around for a long time before you're safe deleting it.

Been using a different mail provider for 5 years. Just the other month google deleted my gmail account (had it set up to delete after a year of no-login)

It is quite easy to migrate:

1. get a new mail account 2. forward everything from your gmail account 3. sort everything GMail into a separate folder in your new account 4. slowly change email addresses in accounts and let people know your new address.

I think after a year I had 99% of accounts migrated, and can only remember one or two that I moved after that.

It’s a good way to declutter accounts as well and was made a bit easier because I use a password manager.

Also with private emails, if someone contacts me after 5 years, they likely know someone I know and can get my contact Info via them or social media.

Take the opportunity to migrate to a domain you own, because then you are provider independent.

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