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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #118
mmcconnell1618 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure this applies. If the workouts are recorded, they are not realtime person-to-person experiences.

A lot of their competitors (like Peloton) do have actual real-time experiences though, and this is increasingly becoming more of a thing as the pandemic drags on and people want to do real-time classes with their favorite instructors back from the before-times.

There's no way to distinguish them though because it's all one subscription with Peloton - you can take the classes live or watch it on demand afterward. It's not like you're paying per live class.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by freewilly1040 »

rgovostes wrote: post #133
antimatter15 wrote: post #67

So this must be why last week's updated "App Store Review Guidelines" explicitly excluded "one-to-many realtime experiences". Third party fitness apps need to fork over 30% to Apple, while they launch their own first party competitor. 3.1.3(d) Person-to-Person Experiences: If your app enables the purchase of realtime person-to-person experiences between two individuals (for example tutoring students, medical consulta…

The 30% cut always applied to one-to-many experiences. They removed it for one-to-one, but did not change it for other models.

Sure, but now them adding this product means we have yet another vertical where Apple has given itself an anticompetitive advantage over competitors.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

> For usage with iPad, Fitness+ requires iPad Pro, iPad (5th generation or later), iPad mini 4 or later, iPad Air 2, or iPad Air (3rd generation). Fitness+ is supported on Apple TV 4K and Apple TV HD.

So if you don't have an Apple TV, you can't watch on a TV? That's a non starter for me (Peloton customer), seems a bit rubbish to be exercising in my living room and not using the TV to display the class.

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Post by [deleted] »

threatofrain wrote: post #140
88840-8855 wrote: post #91

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I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

Are nude photos not permitted on iCloud? With the ubiquity of iPhones, it's difficult to believe iCloud isn't filled with nude photos.

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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by thdrdt »

mike_d wrote: post #148
88840-8855 wrote: post #91

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I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

Was your girlfriend of age? To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

Does it matter? As a parent I might upload a private nude picture of my kids which is perfectly fine.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by coolioxlr »

shadowoflight wrote: post #57
coolioxlr wrote: post #33

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Check out Mixpose https://mixpose.com/ . It's a livestream yoga app on iOS,Android and Web with 3+ live classes a day. Since it's live the instructor can correct your form when you have hard time doing it. Eventually we are going to turn on the AI pose tracking. Disclaimer: I am the co-founder so let me know if you have any question.

Your service looks pretty cool, but there are a few things preventing me from using it: 1) Not having a live instructor is both a blessing and a curse, but largely a blessing for us introverts - I'm not comfortable with somebody watching me work out. But maybe I'll give Mixpose a shot when the AI option is released and has had time to mature. 2. I can't personally justify the high cost of the Mixpose service - an act…

Great feedback. We are not in the VOD business since it's just too competitive and there are a lot of great free contents on Youtube already. Fitness+ is only using Apple Watch.

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Post by ValentineC »

ogre_codes wrote: post #159

I'm curious if this is single person only. If my wife and I do a workout together is it only showing one person's metrics? The plan says "Share with 5 other family members", but can we really share it? All the demos show just a single person's metrics on the display. I'd also like to know what it's really offering here. Is it just static videos with generic progressions or does it work me through a progression based…

> The plan says "Share with 5 other family members", but can we really share it? All the demos show just a single person's metrics on the display.

If we go by how Apple's other family sharing plans work, it just lets you pay once, for every family member (using Apple accounts based in the same country, I should add) to use individually.

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Post by bladegash »

lawrenceyan wrote: post #13

I wonder how Fitbit plays into this all. Can they even realistically compete against the behemoth that Apple is at this point?

I had a Fitbit Sense pre-ordered prior to today. The timing of Apple's release is pretty smart (and likely intended), considering the Sense doesn't ship for another 2 weeks. I ended up cancelling my Sense pre-order and bought the Apple Watch Series 6 today.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by jungletime »

Avoid indoor air pollution, just buy a Kayak and Rollerblades and your summer fitness plan is covered. Winter $20/month gym membership and a pair of skates will beat this too.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

reaperducer wrote: post #72
tw04 wrote: post #45

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Unless Apple is releasing a bike and treadmill I doubt Peloton has much to be concerned with. Half the draw is the fact the tread and bike are both extremely high quality and directly track what you're doing (distance, not just heart rate). I don't even think Apple currently has a compatible cadence sensor? Mirror... I never really understood that one in the first place but I'll assume the folks who love it love it p…

Unless Apple is releasing a bike and treadmill I doubt Peloton has much to be concerned with. But with the Apple product, you're not limited to bike and treadmill. It was demonstrated with all kinds of workout routines. And replacing a $1,000 Peloton with the far cheaper stationary bike of your choosing will be attractive to some people.

Peloton's competitor product is Peloton Digital which is £12.99/mo, doesn't require the bike or treadmill and includes all kinds of workout routines.
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