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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by sleavey »

EricE wrote: post #19
sleavey wrote: post #4

What I dream of is a health monitor watch that's built from open hardware and gives me complete control over and ownership of my data. I don't trust any profit-driven company, even Apple, with such private information. EDIT: thanks to obenn, who pointed me towards [1]. Still in development, but looks promising. [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinetime/

Since privacy is a key differentiator for them (huge financial incentives to actually deliver and not just pay lip service), and there are significant penalties waiting for them if they are lying about protecting privacy (as well as plenty of people who would love to call them out on it), Apple is probably the most trustworthy of any organization if you care about privacy. Also you can keep your data local with Apple…

Is it possible to download the data from the watch without an iDevice?

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by Tiktaalik »

How long until these 'fitness instructors' are animated avatars and new fitness programs can be quickly created programmatically?

Following this perhaps programmatically created work outs can eventually be uniquely tailored to the individual workout needs.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by coolioxlr »

shadowoflight wrote: post #5
sna1l wrote: post #3

I think Apple Fitness+ will be fine as a standalone product, but I believe this is a stepping off point for more fully fledged fitness products from Apple. Using their AR technology (iPad/iPhone/etc), they can replicate a lot of the same functionality a multi-thousand dollar product like the Tempo provides. They can automatically correct form, recognize weights, etc.

If Apple did this for home workouts I would subscribe to Fitness+ in a heartbeat. I currently practice yoga at home, and the worst part is I don't have an instructor to correct my form.

Check out Mixpose https://mixpose.com/ . It's a livestream yoga app on iOS,Android and Web with 3+ live classes a day. Since it's live the instructor can correct your form when you have hard time doing it. Eventually we are going to turn on the AI pose tracking. Disclaimer: I am the co-founder so let me know if you have any question.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by lawrenceyan »

cliverani wrote: post #20
lawrenceyan wrote: post #13

I wonder how Fitbit plays into this all. Can they even realistically compete against the behemoth that Apple is at this point?

Well, Google owns Fitbit now, so it's two behemoths going at each other. Plus you now have Amazon coming into the market with their Halo Fitness bands.

Is that true? I thought the acquisition failed because of the EU.

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Post by k3liutZu »

netcraft wrote: post #11
slg wrote: post #2

I wouldn't want to be Peleton, Mirror, or one of those similar companies. Is it worth the extra $1000+ up front and $30+ monthly for the Peleton and Mirror trainers to mention your name?

I tend to agree, but its always amazing to me how much that seems to matter to viewers on twitch. The entire streamer business model centers around people paying to have someone say their name.

Well you do it mostly to support content producers.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by [deleted] »

hk__2 wrote: post #26
sleavey wrote: post #4

What I dream of is a health monitor watch that's built from open hardware and gives me complete control over and ownership of my data. I don't trust any profit-driven company, even Apple, with such private information. EDIT: thanks to obenn, who pointed me towards [1]. Still in development, but looks promising. [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinetime/

Have you tried building it yourself?

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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by julioo »

king_magic wrote: post #6

While I'm certainly annoyed that this is a blatant ripoff of so many services out there already - more than anything, it just looks like a real snoozefest of a product. Beyond that, where does the App Store insanity stop? Is Apple going to pull a Fortnite and kick exercise apps off next for "duplicating core Apple products"?

They will be able to sell this 30% cheaper than all competitor apps on app store.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by slg »

netcraft wrote: post #11
slg wrote: post #2

I wouldn't want to be Peleton, Mirror, or one of those similar companies. Is it worth the extra $1000+ up front and $30+ monthly for the Peleton and Mirror trainers to mention your name?

I tend to agree, but its always amazing to me how much that seems to matter to viewers on twitch. The entire streamer business model centers around people paying to have someone say their name.

I was just having this debate the other day on HN. Just because "saying someones name" is the most visible return someone gets for a Twitch subscription does not mean that is the primary or only motivating factor. People don't donate to NPR solely because they want a tote bag. Supporting and motivating creators is also a huge reason for donating even if it isn't a tangible return.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by cliverani »

Apple just took a huge swing at Peloton and at home fitness startups.

Why cycle in place at home with a Peloton instructor, when you can cycle outside with a Fitness+ instructor? Why limit yourself to your stationary Peloton bike at home, when you can use a stationary bike anywhere?

Apple can and probability will beat out Lulu Lemon's Mirror on price using motion capture on an AppleTV smartTV or Ipad.

Only startup that stands a chance is Tonal b/c of their hardware providing value.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by filoleg »

king_magic wrote: post #6

While I'm certainly annoyed that this is a blatant ripoff of so many services out there already - more than anything, it just looks like a real snoozefest of a product. Beyond that, where does the App Store insanity stop? Is Apple going to pull a Fortnite and kick exercise apps off next for "duplicating core Apple products"?

>Is Apple going to pull a Fortnite and kick exercise apps off next for "duplicating core Apple products"?

That's not what Fortnite got kicked out for, and I think it is unfair to pretend otherwise.

Also, they didn't kick out Spotify or other music streaming services after introducing Apple Music, so I don't see that happening here either.

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