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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by ilikehurdles »

tw04 wrote: post #45
slg wrote: post #2

I wouldn't want to be Peleton, Mirror, or one of those similar companies. Is it worth the extra $1000+ up front and $30+ monthly for the Peleton and Mirror trainers to mention your name?

Unless Apple is releasing a bike and treadmill I doubt Peloton has much to be concerned with. Half the draw is the fact the tread and bike are both extremely high quality and directly track what you're doing (distance, not just heart rate). I don't even think Apple currently has a compatible cadence sensor? Mirror... I never really understood that one in the first place but I'll assume the folks who love it love it p…

Many other manufacturers with a lot more fitness experience have attempted to market devices that calculate cadence from wrist or chest sensors and all of them have been terrible. If you want cadence (or power or speed) on a bike, you need the respective sensor on the bike itself.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by EricE »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #30
sleavey wrote: post #4

What I dream of is a health monitor watch that's built from open hardware and gives me complete control over and ownership of my data. I don't trust any profit-driven company, even Apple, with such private information. EDIT: thanks to obenn, who pointed me towards [1]. Still in development, but looks promising. [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinetime/

I agree with you. But... Wow, people really dislike this. Is it just HN culture to not want something like this? I get it, I carry a phone and it tells the cloud all my secrets, blah blah. But fitness is health and I would just rather not send any of that to the cloud. Is that so hard to get?

You don't have to send your health data to the cloud. Indeed, it's not enabled by default and directly getting health data off the phone onto a computer is actually pretty hard to do. I wish there were easier ways to get the health data off of the phone. Heck - can't even sync it to my iPad.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by naoru »

Fitter, happier, more productive. Not drinking too much. Regular exercise at gym, 3 times a week.

Sleeping well. No bad dreams. Less chance of illness.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by cliverani »

lawrenceyan wrote: post #34
cliverani wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, Google owns Fitbit now, so it's two behemoths going at each other. Plus you now have Amazon coming into the market with their Halo Fitness bands.

Is that true? I thought the acquisition failed because of the EU.

EU has set a July 20 deadline for the deal. Google and Fitbit already have regulatory approval for the deal in the U.S.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by lotsofpulp »

sleavey wrote: post #47
HumblyTossed wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you. But... Wow, people really dislike this. Is it just HN culture to not want something like this? I get it, I carry a phone and it tells the cloud all my secrets, blah blah. But fitness is health and I would just rather not send any of that to the cloud. Is that so hard to get?

Yeah, I don't get it either. I don't really want anything provided by the software on the watch, just the hardware, and I'll do the rest. I realise my use-case is in the 0.005%, but when companies can ship tens of millions of these I am surprised there isn't someone selling what I'm after.

The increased complexity of the devices and the cost of R&D and production make any small scale (even in the tens of millions) production of quality devices not economical.

This may also be caused by high litigation costs due to patents and licensing.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by shadowoflight »

coolioxlr wrote: post #33
shadowoflight wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Apple did this for home workouts I would subscribe to Fitness+ in a heartbeat. I currently practice yoga at home, and the worst part is I don't have an instructor to correct my form.

Check out Mixpose https://mixpose.com/ . It's a livestream yoga app on iOS,Android and Web with 3+ live classes a day. Since it's live the instructor can correct your form when you have hard time doing it. Eventually we are going to turn on the AI pose tracking. Disclaimer: I am the co-founder so let me know if you have any question.

Your service looks pretty cool, but there are a few things preventing me from using it:

1) Not having a live instructor is both a blessing and a curse, but largely a blessing for us introverts - I'm not comfortable with somebody watching me work out. But maybe I'll give Mixpose a shot when the AI option is released and has had time to mature.

2. I can't personally justify the high cost of the Mixpose service - an actual gym membership is around the same price (and that includes a couple of 1-on-1 personal trainer sessions each month), and my current yoga app (without feedback, admittedly) is $20 per year. In direct comparison to Apple Fitness+, I can sign my wife and myself up for the new Apple One Premiere bundle for $30/mo and get music streaming, news, 2TB of storage, and other goodies on top of Fitness+.

3. If the rumors of Fitness+ utilizing iPhone camera and Watch sensor information simultaneously are true, I feel other AI form-correction solutions won't stand a chance - but I'd be happy to be disproved on that front!

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by consultutah »

slg wrote: post #2

I wouldn't want to be Peleton, Mirror, or one of those similar companies. Is it worth the extra $1000+ up front and $30+ monthly for the Peleton and Mirror trainers to mention your name?

Apple is not really competing with them and doesn't ever need to. All they need to do is get some % of the people that own iPhones and iPads to use this service (or subscribe to Apple One and never even use this) and it will be immensely profitable. It's kind of like Apple Music vs Spotify, a lot more people use Spotify, but AM still makes tons of money...

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by ogre_codes »

Tiktaalik wrote: post #27

RIP local fitness instructors. Already battered by the pandemic, a lot of them have been successfully transitioning to an online only business model. This will make it harder.

I'm skeptical people who are willing to pay for and desire a fitness trainer would be content with a much more generic service.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Post by reaperducer »

lalo2302 wrote: post #18
sna1l wrote: post #3

I think Apple Fitness+ will be fine as a standalone product, but I believe this is a stepping off point for more fully fledged fitness products from Apple. Using their AR technology (iPad/iPhone/etc), they can replicate a lot of the same functionality a multi-thousand dollar product like the Tempo provides. They can automatically correct form, recognize weights, etc.

Don't you think is coming? Baby steps. First they'll launch and polish the trainings and sort the experience, then they add shit tons of tech there. Think on the Nike's kinect game. Or Wii Fit, but 10 years later with a whole ecosystem behind it. One of the most exciting services in a long time

Don't you think is coming?

I think he does. That's why he stated, "I believe this is a stepping off point for more fully fledged fitness products from Apple."

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