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#162

I'm wrong about all sorts of things, but I have a funny feeling that we're going to look back someday and see this as the first of many companies of a significant size launching something that looks just like a TV station. I can't emphasize how incredibly brilliant this is: it appears to be a perfectly curated combination of pure marketing webinar, tutorials, educational lectures and who knows what else. This is an e…

At the time where no one else watches TV anymore... I think it makes sense if they offer the programs in VOD but I don't see where on their website they do that.

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> I keep reminding our team that if we're trying to follow in the footsteps of MTV — and its greatest success was "Jersey Shore" — then the bar is pretty low.

Sounds like they need a few more GenX's on their team to help them understand the real impact MTV had. I'm struggling to see a world where CFTV has even half the cultural or generational impact that MTV had.

You may not respect or value what MTV has become, but if you grew up with MTV in the 80s and 90s, you might have a better appreciation for how high the bar actually is.

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I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

I'm not interested in video content either. But in recent years I've found that some people respond much better to it.

Anecdotally, it seems like every student on /r/programmerhumor got through their CS degree with the help of algorithms videos on youtube. Despite having trouble understanding the accent, they found it much easier to learn from the video than the book. I prefer the book, even though I would have had no trouble understanding the accent in which these videos are apparently made.

My partner is the same. Finds it difficult to concentrate on a textbook, but easy when it's people talking. I'm not wired this way, and I don't understand why others are wired differently from you and me, but I do accept that it works for them.

The consensus Hacker News would have you think that plain text is the pinnacle of human communication because it's searchable, copy-able, skimmable etc. But many people feel differently. Cloudflare.tv is for them.

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I'm a dev and enjoy my articles too, but I'd say I perform better with videos in some domains. The first one to come to mind if mechanic work. If I want to learn how to change a mass inflow sensor, it's way easier to watch the job be performed than to read a description, even with pictures.

This is a good point, I think youtube has the potential to bring back DIY repair because its much easier to watch someone do and describe each step of a task than it is to decipher a service manual. Our language is severely deficient in ability to precisely describe physical, tactile, geometrical relationships of small parts and manual tasks.

> I think youtube has the potential to bring back DIY repair because its much easier to watch someone do and describe each step of a task than it is to decipher a service manual.

I recently tried to DIY repair a HP 12A toner cartridge. The Youtube videos in the DIY space are a wild mixture of shoddy camera work (bad quality cameras, bad lighting), language issues (I don't speak Russian nor Hindi) and, honestly, bad quality - there is one specific step involving a specialized tool that can be improvised by a screwdriver and a hammer, but all videos I found it simply went over this crucial step in a second without showing or explaining anything. And this is the case for many DIY videos.

A manufacturer-produced service manual or an iFixit guide however? Crystal clear photos that can be zoomed in, legible English (or at least you can copy and paste stuff to Google Translate!), links to "where to buy spare parts"...

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I've noticed certain communities that live on the edge of tech-savvy do this a lot. In particular emulator and jailbreak communities for video game consoles refuse to keep up-to-date text guides on things. Everything is done on YouTube which is such a terrible format when you need to follow 30-step lists and pause to click on many links throughout the process to download software, firmware and exploits.

I think Youtube's monetization does it... they want to earn cash from their guides. Is there any money in "Youtube for Articles?"

Yes, but not as much I suspect. Blogs with some ads were the thing, but most people in tech will have an ad blocker or ad blindness, so that's not very effective.

Some people will write a book about a subject, but I suspect that's hit and miss as well.

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> Are youtube ads really unskippable No. I never see ads on Youtube on my own devices, and that barely requires any effort.

I had to jailbreak my iPhone in order to not see Youtube ads. That qualifies as some (small) effort.

Can't you use Firefox with uBlock addon on an iPhone?

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Medium? I'd think there's money there, just not sure for whom.

I'm actually surprised they don't introduce unskippable ads into articles to let content producers monetize their articles. Rather than the static ads and paywalls you can have the intro paragraph visible and then a "watch to unlock article" ad. Just like youtube with their 10min requirement, Medium can make requirements like the article needs to be more than 1000 words for 2 ads or something like that. Granted, this…

See, I think people will tolerate ad breaks in video much more than e.g. full page takeovers in the middle of reading. They're used to it from cable TV, and there's the option to skip it, and an indication how long it is. And it's consistent because of Youtube's dominating position in the video market, unlike websites where every one would have a different 'takeover' format.

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post #56

I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content - the stuff that will be on this sounds broadly interesting to me but I'd rather read it in article format. I understand video "performs" well in a lot of contexts (and thus is of particular interest to marketing people) but I am always surprised when content targeted broadly towards the technical community is done in a video-first…

> I'm a generally technical person and I'm simply flat out uninterested in video content There are many good videos lectures available on YouTube from Stanford, MIT and other universities. You also have student questions on tape, very much like sitting in the real lecture. Could you explain what exactly makes the content uninteresting, when it is in video format?

Whenever I see video content I automatically think "I do not have time for this".

Text lets me efficiently skip through most of articles if they do not get to the point, or if they linger in ELI5.

The more I know about a field, the more I want to skip bits, because I don't need to be explained the basics over again.

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