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Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by eanzenberg » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:40 PM UTC

bitL wrote: post #156

eanzenberg wrote: post #146

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I'm gaming at 4k60fps ultra everything modern games on a single 1080ti right now.

Lucky you! Head over to /r/nvidia and read which games just can't cut it on 4k@60 Ultra.

Which ones though? Tbh I do have a 4k gsync so that does help when fps goes below 60. I find anything from 50-60fps to be smooth and below 50 it starts to get too choppy. It also helps with the input lag to run gsync @ 58fps. The most current game I run ultra is far cry 5, it's a pleasure @ 4k.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by elihu » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:41 PM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #79

I feel like there is a hard limit on rendering tech right now. We saw 4k upgrades to the PS4/xbox and next gen consoles might be a way off. I thought the gaming industry was waiting for hardware that would let you render Marvel movie style graphics. Things that just barely hit that uncanny divide; that would give the player comic book film style immersions. The demo video they posted does look pretty impressive. Is t…

One of the major challenges when trying to generate realistic, believable graphics is correctly modeling ambient light. Without that, adding higher resolution displays or finer polygon meshes won't get you there.

The most efficient and accurate methods of modeling ambient light are fundamentally based on ray tracing. Path tracing is probably the best known and most popular, photon mapping is another. They are both based on random sampling, so the more rays you can trace per frame, the more accurate the lighting calculations are. (Inaccuracies tend to manifest as graininess.)

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by psurge » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:41 PM UTC

whichdan wrote: post #59

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Those prices are Nvidia's OC Founder's Editions. The non-OC versions are actually: RTX 2080 Ti: $999 RTX 2080: $699 RTX 2079: $499 Source: https://i.imgur.com/LrUitua.png

Thank you! Updated.

The 2080 TDP seems to be 215W rather than 285W (source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13249/nvidia-announces-geforc...).

Are you sure the FE TDPs are different from the reference spec? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by archagon » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:42 PM UTC

I wonder how long it'll take to get these cards into a "Nano"/ITX/small form factor? Is it even going to be possible after a certain point? IMO, it's the ideal size for eGPU builds, but so far, you can only go as high as a 1080.

(Here's my hacky 1080 eGPU build over TB2: http://archagon.net/blog/2018/07/25/egpu-redux/ And just to assuage any fears, there are attractive, pre-built options of the same size for TB3! I had to go this route because TB3->TB2 adapters don't work with my model of laptop.)

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by wilsonnb3 » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:44 PM UTC

old-gregg wrote: post #24

Putting AI/ML aside, I have a question for graphics experts or/and gamers: what is the practical [1] ceiling of the current champion, the 1080ti? I was under impression that that card already was much more than most people needed. In other words, is the new generation only useful for 4K gaming? [1] By "practical" I mean on 1440p@144Hz monitors.

I'm currently running a 1070ti on a 1440p@144Hz monitor and I can maintain a solid 110-120 in AAA games that aren't pieces of shit (looking at you, PUBG) while on medium-high settings.

The 1080ti is still definitely more than you need for 1440p@144hz, as long as you're willing to mess with the settings. There are so many settings that eat performance for very little visual benefit, so if you're dead set on running every graphical setting at the highest, then you probably won't always hit 144hz at 1440p with a 1080ti.

IMHO you're correct, the new generation is right now only useful for 4k gaming. In a year or two after the full 20xx range is out, newer games with better graphics will be out and my 1070ti will probably no longer give the performance I want at 1440p.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by psurge » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:45 PM UTC

psurge wrote: post #163

whichdan wrote: post #59

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Thank you! Updated.

The 2080 TDP seems to be 215W rather than 285W (source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13249/nvidia-announces-geforc... ). Are you sure the FE TDPs are different from the reference spec? I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else.

OK, I just found the FE TDPs listed on the NVidia site (2080 FE: 225W).

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by blihp » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:45 PM UTC

ErneX wrote: post #140

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For video professionals doing ray tracing this upgrade would likely be a must-have. This assumes the improvement (i.e. 6x or anything in that ballpark) is real and their software supports it... if so, hell, nVidia could double or triple the price of the card and it would still make sense for them. nVidia is just cashing in on a lack of any real competition at the high-end currently... hopefully we'll see AMD get back…

video professionals should use the Turing powered Quadros, these are for gamers

It's a spectrum. Not every professional wants and/or can afford the top end cards. Many professionals (i.e. those who make money doing a thing) have been using high-end gaming cards for work pretty much since they existed. There's also the long-running debate as to the actual value of the 'pro' line of video cards for non-mission critical purposes (enough of one that nVidia in their license prohibited the use of gaming cards in servers with the odd exception of crypto mining)

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Post by mavdi » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:47 PM UTC

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Collapsing? Nocoiners lol

Wow you have really compelling arguments as to why crypto isn't collapsing! Thanks you for you insight

Let's see your argument for it collapsing. It's been very volatile sure, but you'd still get insane gains if you invested just last year.

BTC has gone up 45% in the past year. 1015% in 2 years.

source: https://cryptowat.ch/

Collapsing.

Re: Nvidia announces RTX 2000 GPU series with ‘6x more performance’ and ray-tracing

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Post by archi42 » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:51 PM UTC

It was about time... The old series is, well, pretty old by now, but (to me) never really seemed worth the upgrade from my r9 290 (used for Vive/VR gaming).

Maybe mid-2019 will see me dropping some money on a new GPU, once prices settled.

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Post by TillE » Mon, Aug 20, 2018, 8:51 PM UTC

bitL wrote: post #118

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Which things exactly? Manuals translations is SO DAMN EXPENSIVE. They have to sell, what a dozen or so cards to get those losses? Or 7 european (EU) offices of which one is also a dev center vs 15 US offices (of which one is HQ/dev)? Or stock which comes to both from Taiwan? In any case, it seems VAT is the explanation and in that case price is without premium, even great compared. Still expensive.

2-year warranty easily.

Stuff very rarely breaks in the second year. I'd bet the vast majority of warranty claims are within the first year, which is legally mandatory in every jurisdiction of note.