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Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Are we at the end of an era computing wise or is it just Apple? I wonder if computing technologies great transformation of our society is coming to an end. I also thought this in about 1993 and then again in the mid 2000s, so I'm probably wrong again. Maybe AI will be the new killer app that drives the next wave of upgrades.

I see zero reason to upgrade my 5S. I just have not seen a compelling selling point for the later models compared to all the major overhauls phones like the 4 and 5 represented. There's the form factor I guess, but everything just feels incremental or like basic maintenance right now. A more realistic reason is probably saturation, a little like Facebook's user base. They're going to pursue new market rather than get…

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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> The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Yeah, no. When will I need this dongle? Exactly when I left it somewhere else. Then Apple will need a "Find my Dongle" application next to all the other "Find my*" applications. I am not going to buy expensive spare dongles just so I don't rage when I realize I left the dongle at work so now I can't listen to mus…

I have just one pair of headphones that I use daily. How many dongles would you need to have one for every set of headphones?

The headphones stay on the desk at work. Then there is the old set of Altec Lansing speakers in the garage. There are a few more spots that I rarely use, but they all have 3.5mm connectors.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector When USB-C removed the need for a dedicated power lead, I think that spelled the end for magsafe. Still, there's always this: https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-...

Or maybe this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/branchusb/magneo-first-...

This looks like the right approach, thanks for the link.

However I still find the fact that I'd have to pay an extra $35 for an incredibly useful feature which apple decided to kill very unpleasant. Their product is not cheaper. So I end up subsidizing their stupidity. Or worse, their choice to not give a damn about my needs.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

#166
post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

> I just can't consistently control the phone. A large percentage of taps or swipes do things I did not intend (how many I'm not sure -- 20%? 33%?) It's just completely crazy.

I couldn't agree more with this. Just as bad (if not worse) on Android. I can't seem to use any modern phone without a huge number of unintended inputs. The reliance on gestures in apps is especially annoying because I don't use some of them often enough to memorize the different gestures. I very often just get stuck in various apps tapping and swiping randomly trying to make something happen. Just the other day I finally figured out when I get stuck in Instagram I can tap the Instagram logo to go back. Up till now I've been force quitting it instead.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

>fix the horrible inconsistencies in the way autocorrect works (or, please, offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong without changing them, and let me tap on them to change them, or use the current autocorrect system but let me tap on a word to un-"correct" it, the fact that the current system just changes what I typed and gives me no recourse to fix it apart from laborious deletions and re-typings, which I often have to do 2 or 3 times, is just haughty and offensive)

Android has this same problem and I wish they'd fix it using your suggestion. It would make typing so much better.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

I can definitely relate to that. Using iOS at this point frustrates me so much that sometimes I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6 to remember what a wonderful UI and UX that was. The bigger problem is the lack of alternatives. Android is such a mess of inconsistencies and bad UX, added to that are the problems with system updates, lack of a proper flagship device (the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my…

Don't get me started on Google. They are so huge only because they had a halfway decent search engine. Their Android OS as you note is a mess. And you think that's bad? You should try their TV/DVR app on their Google Fiber service. It is a complete tire fire. Google absolutely SUCKS at UI.

I won't argue about Apple, they are not perfect, they are after all human, but for the love of $DEITY they seem to be the only ones capable of decent UI. It always needs polish, OS X, iOS etc, but its much better than the tire fire alternatives out there.

And people complaining about the lack of headphone jack, Samsung, as usual, copied apple right after and removed it too. So, whatever.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Isn't Apple just as bad as google with user data? I feel that all of them, apple, google, facebook, amazon, they all disregard our privacy.

Actually no, privacy is a point of difference between Apple and the other companies. Apple has very different philosophy regarding user data. Generally they try to keep it on your phone and they don't suck everything up into their datacenter, as they aren't in the business of selling ads. That's why their "intelligent assistant" stuff isn't as good as Google's.

Google sells your data for $$. It is their main income stream. Apple doesn't. They don't want your data and don't enter markets in fact because they don't want to monetize you or your data.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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I should start measuring the time I spend fishing around my cluttered desk looking for that stupid dongle because I'm now done with a Hangouts call on my laptop and would like to switch back to my phone to play a podcast. iPhone 7 will crush that metric! Oh wait, lower is better? Eph! There's also that time that it was 2pm and I still hadn't had lunch. I ended a Hangouts call, yanked my headphones out of my mbp, crui…

It does suck. I've remedied it by using bluetooth earphones & also bringing an adapter (which is pretty small) in my wallet, along with a microusb-to-lightning adapter. And now I'm pretty happy with my phone.

All of this is extra effort to fix broken usability. Not much but frequent and unavoidable.

All this subsidizes apple's decision to not offer an effortless solution for very common use cases.

Bringing a dongle is an effort. Replacing existing headphones is an effort. Paying extra ateention to which Apple-made earbuds I bring is an effort. Buying bt headphones and charging them is an effort.

What am I buying with the extra efforts I need to invest in activities which required no such efforts before?

The sound is not better. I am not going to swim with my phone.

My only conclusion is that I do this for Apple, not for me.

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