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Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by manarth »

cracell wrote: post #19
itg wrote: post #7

The numbers coming out of Apple next quarter will be interesting. iPhone 7 has been underwhelming and reception to the latest MacBooks Pros has been mostly negative. And if sales are on a downhill trajectory, I wonder what the response inside of Apple will be.

I hope the market punishes them for removing the ports we regularly use from the MacBook Pro so when I'm ready to buy a new one in a few years they have brought them back. In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector is maddening. By far my favorite feature of Macbooks and they removed it because??

  In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector
When USB-C removed the need for a dedicated power lead, I think that spelled the end for magsafe.

Still, there's always this: https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-...

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by DoodleBuggy »

I personally think the iPhone 7 is just a bad phone (quite literally, the phone audio itself cuts out or muffles when you are on voice calls, and everyone I know with an iPhone 7 reports this problem). Aside from that, the iPhone 6/7 body was/is always very ugly and uninspired, and the iPhone 7 is no better but loses a useful feature (headphone jack) while offering no benefit as a trade-off. I personally have an iPhone 7 Plus but I would not recommend it to anyone, it's the first Apple product I've bought and had buyers remorse about. If you want a new phone I would recommend to save money and get a 6S, or wait two more years for the next major redesign.

Oh, and let's not forget iOS, which has seemingly degraded considerably in quality to the point of being at the same level of disdain as Windows ME or Windows Vista was. Maybe it's entirely perception, but the bugginess of iOS was actually a group conversation topic during Christmas despite having a largely nontechnical crowd of guests, all of who were complaining about various difficulties and issues with their iPhones.

I wish I was optimistic about Apple, but instead I am concerned.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by Washuu »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #25
cracell wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope the market punishes them for removing the ports we regularly use from the MacBook Pro so when I'm ready to buy a new one in a few years they have brought them back. In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector is maddening. By far my favorite feature of Macbooks and they removed it because??

The removed it because it was a proprietary port and felt that the market was better served in the long term by eliminating this kind of special case. I like MagSafe, but it's not really that big a deal.

MagSafe saved the brand "new" 15" MacBook Pro I bought last week, twice. Once when the young nephew grabbed the wire curious gently tugging it. Another when my mother hit the charger with her foot and sent it flying across the room. As well with the second case it also entirely prevented my mother from taking a nasty fall from tripping.

For those that it is useful for it is a big deal.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by spacehacker »

jblow wrote: post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

How does iOS compare to Android these days regarding everyday concerns like sluggishness, app switching, text editing?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by ihuman »

Washuu wrote: post #117
ihuman wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

> The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Yeah, no. When will I need this dongle? Exactly when I left it somewhere else. Then Apple will need a "Find my Dongle" application next to all the other "Find my*" applications. I am not going to buy expensive spare dongles just so I don't rage when I realize I left the dongle at work so now I can't listen to mus…

I just keep mine connected to my headphones, since I use them more with my iPhone than a computer. Also someone made a cool keychain to attach it to if that works better for you. [1]

> expensive spare dongles

They're only $10 USD.

[1] https://uncourage.com/

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by wklauss »

lvspiff wrote: post #18

For someone who waited nearly a month to get my iphone7 (as an upgrade from a galaxy s3) due to inventory being unavailable I'm going WTF - sluggish sales? then why did i have to wait so long? But then at the same time I compare my iphone 7 to friends iphone 6S models and realize...oh the only difference is the headphone jack if you dont do x,y,z...no wonder they aren't selling too many

Difference between 6s and 6 were also small and so are the differences between a Samsung Galaxy S7 and a S6, for example. I'd venture that is very rare these days to have a phone that justifies buying the immediate next generation one. Phones are mature enough. Good ones are really well built and will last a couple generations just fine.

As long as this is an industry-wide problem, Apple has nothing to fear. It would be a problem IF people who have waited three years to change their iPhone decide to go for a different brand.

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Post by pdimitar »

brightball wrote: post #110

Apple's losing its mojo in a slow steady drip and there's going to be more of this if they don't get it together soon. Apple used to be synonymous with premium equipment an a "It Just Works" experience. It made it really, really easy to just get the Apple version of anything knowing it was going to be good. My parents need equipment, I get them an iMac, an Airport Extreme, iPhone, iPad, etc...knowing it's all just go…

I tried quite a few routers and if you are on a budget (or simply aren't fussed on giving $200+ for a router which is entirely fair) I found that the Asus RT-N18U is a fantastic device for the money. I attached my printer and external HDD to it and had almost no problems. The UI is better than most other vendors (Eero and Ubiquiti are still kings though) and on top of that they have a very decent mobile app as well.

As for Apple, I actually wanted to start investing myself in their ecosystem but as you very eloquently put it -- it seems the businessmen took over and things just go worse and worse with time. :(

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by gdulli »

I haven't bought a new phone since they stopped the practice of subsidizing a new phone purchase every 2 years. I can't understand how they wouldn't expect that to have killed sales. I had been buying a new phone every 2 years but now I have no plans to buy one until I absolutely need to.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by tenpies »

Longhanks wrote: post #106
jblow wrote: post #93

Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

I can definitely relate to that. Using iOS at this point frustrates me so much that sometimes I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6 to remember what a wonderful UI and UX that was. The bigger problem is the lack of alternatives. Android is such a mess of inconsistencies and bad UX, added to that are the problems with system updates, lack of a proper flagship device (the Pixel is a joke compared to the iPhone 6s in my…

> I pull out my iPhone 4S running iOS 6

Does iOS still spam you multiple times per day to "upgrade" to the latest version of iOS? That sort of constant nagging has me seriously thinking of ditching Apple products entirely.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Post by monkmartinez »

ihuman wrote: post #125
Washuu wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Yeah, no. When will I need this dongle? Exactly when I left it somewhere else. Then Apple will need a "Find my Dongle" application next to all the other "Find my*" applications. I am not going to buy expensive spare dongles just so I don't rage when I realize I left the dongle at work so now I can't listen to mus…

I just keep mine connected to my headphones, since I use them more with my iPhone than a computer. Also someone made a cool keychain to attach it to if that works better for you. [1] > expensive spare dongles They're only $10 USD. [1] https://uncourage.com/

Only $10??? That is a lot of money for something that shouldn't be needed in the first place. I haven't spent $10 dollars on my phone since I bought a case for it in 2013. Then again, I have expandable memory and a headphone jack (Galaxy Note 3).
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