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Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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I'm guessing iPhone 8 will be a enough significant design change to maintain sales.

However we are getting to the point with smartphones like we did with PC's ten years ago where they just became "good enough" for everyday use so the constant upgrades were less necessary for normal use.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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I hope the market punishes them for removing the ports we regularly use from the MacBook Pro so when I'm ready to buy a new one in a few years they have brought them back. In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector is maddening. By far my favorite feature of Macbooks and they removed it because??

In particular the removal of the magsafe power connector When USB-C removed the need for a dedicated power lead, I think that spelled the end for magsafe. Still, there's always this: https://griffintechnology.com/intl/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-...

Or maybe this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/branchusb/magneo-first-...

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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>My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgrade to AirPods The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Also, you can disable 3D touch and reachability (the double-tap home button thing) in the accessibility settings, if those are causing your issues. >offer a system that just underlines words-thought-to-be-wrong…

> The phone comes with a 3.5mm to Lightning adapter, so you can continue to use your existing headphones. Yeah, no. When will I need this dongle? Exactly when I left it somewhere else. Then Apple will need a "Find my Dongle" application next to all the other "Find my*" applications. I am not going to buy expensive spare dongles just so I don't rage when I realize I left the dongle at work so now I can't listen to mus…

I have just one pair of headphones that I use daily. How many dongles would you need to have one for every set of headphones?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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No, there is simply more competition today, and market balances things out. Also, Apple grew too comfortable and stopped pushing forward. It was only a matter of time for this to happen.

Do you have any data that suggest that the reason Apple's sales are decreasing is because they are loosing markets to competitors, rather than simply because the whole market is not growing as much as it was previously?

Not sure if such data is public. That's my own deduction, based on apparent slowing down of innovation in Apple. It's natural to expect to fall behind competition in such case. If other manufacturers would start reducing production too, it would indicate, that market is now now not growing as much as before.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

How does iOS compare to Android these days regarding everyday concerns like sluggishness, app switching, text editing?

YMMV depending on what Android phone you want to compare it to, but it's still not 100% there, even in expensive ones.

That being said, it's not longer a deal breaker, I think, for most of the people that used to complain about it and if you have a pixel or a high end Galaxy its very rare to find instances of slugginess or dropped frames when scrolling.

I still face more sudden app crashes on Android than on iOS, weird error messages that are definitely not user-friendly and for some specific categories of apps, like games or sound/music, I still think iOS offers better selection and reliability.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Usually I have upgraded, but I currently have no intention of buying an iPhone 7 or later, unless they fix something! For me it's a double whammy. I don't like the lack of headphone jack, and whereas I feel like I could manage grumpily ... for me it kills the excitement of buying the new device, and I think that is important. (My standard listening headphones are Etymotic ER-4Ps; there is no way I am going to downgra…

totally agree. The home button has also become an object of mystery. It seems to have several functions too many, and it's always doing one I don't want.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Do we know if the lack of headphone jack has any effect on sales?

Anecdotally, yes. It does (and will) stop me from buying this and following models. Making people carry around (and forget / lose) an extra dongle to make up for removed functionality is the opposite of good UX. I will ride my iPhone 6 until it dies of HW failure (still mint condition now) and only then will I think long and hard about a successor. Ask me again in 6 years or so.

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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Aside from better battery life (better as in 3+ days of use) I can't think of much I'd want in a phone that isn't already there. Camera, display, speed etc are all fine for my needs.

I agree - which is why I, and many others, don't see the need to upgrade. That's the problem Apple is facing.

Yeah, still rocking the iPhone 6 here. I'd quite like the 3D touch that's on newer models, but not enough to pay for a new phone. Will likely stay with this until the battery drops off or it otherwise stops working.

Previously had 3G,3GS,4,5 so this is the longest I've a particular model.

Is the same stagnation in Android land too? I wonder how manufacturers will handle it in the long run?

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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My buddy has purchased every new iPhone on release day since the first version. Every new iPhone except the 7. He said "The one I have now is the last one I'll buy". He's not willing to give up the headphone jack. I expect there are many more like him so a 10% reduction in production is to be expected. To be fair the 7 is slick and nice in a lot of ways.

10% or more reduction in the quarter after the holidays is always to be expected. This is just more of the usual "we need to write about _something_" journalism. Sigh.

(PS: anecdotally, 3 family members upgraded to 7s/7s+ in the last month. No complaints about headphone jack, it's really only a huge issue in the internet echo chamber while ordinary people in their vast majority don't care and just use whatever buds come with the device).

Re: Apple to slice iPhone production 10% due to sluggish sales

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This is an annual story, not super interesting. Nikkei itself actually posted something similar at this time last year: http://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Trends/Parts-makers-brace-fo... > Apple is expected to reduce output of its latest iPhone models by around 30% in the January-March quarter compared with its original plans, according to several parts suppliers. The measure will deal a blow to Japanese and South Korea…

Supply chain stories about Apple get posted all the time, and there is no discernible relationship between what they say and the actual sales volumes the Apple reports in the next 10-Q.
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