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Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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Some time ago, Facebook was all about FarmVille. A fictional cow was sad and you had to help. Over and over again... in your profile, in your news feed, everywhere.

Facebook fixed that problem by moving all game activity to a specialized area.

So that's the solution. Facebook needs to split links from user photos and updates. And move the trending pane to that area as well.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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post #88

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Independent white men are generally Republican voters, for example. Big difference between being independent and not identifying with a party. Hence, they are hard to herd because they are actually already decided. This isn't conjecture. I've seen the base files.

I'm gonna need a massive citation here. > This isn't conjecture. I've seen the base files. Until you share, it's conjecture.

http://themonkeycage.org/2009/12/three_myths_about_political...

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources. I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person's Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true. However, she added "I don't have time to figure out if they're true. People can read your comments." I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times…

We don't really have an independent press anymore, and blog-sphere can be trivially gamed by interested and powerful actors. Have we as a civilization ever witnessed such a pervasive disinformation culture? I forget who said this, possibly a character in Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, but the idea was that when a population perceives that the social order is unfair (due to bad faith power actors) the genera…

>>So. Apparently "fake news" is OK [1] if your camp is doing it.

I think a lot of people develop acceptance of fake news from their camp because they just assume the other camp is doing it as well and see it as leveling the playing field.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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Kind of a small sample size, right? I guess I'm hesitant to change the political dynamic of a nation based on just that.

Why shouldn't everyone's vote count the same?

Look up. I'm for pop vote. I'm just saying to libs thinking the pop vote would have changed things... Maybe. Maybe Not.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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I have interacted with several people on Facebook who rely on fake news sources. I pointed out fake news articles several times on one person's Facebook page. She agreed the articles were not true. However, she added "I don't have time to figure out if they're true. People can read your comments." I asked her what she thought of the fact that this particular article, which was blatantly false, was shared 16,000 times…

I am using a standard line "It's fake. In general you should consider anything you see on Facebook, Twitter, Whatsapp or the Internet to be false by default."

Engaging in refuting online garbage constantly is a painful waste of time, and keeping silent or blocking it just allows it to fester.

I'm hoping that this makes a difference, and I've used a trivial and non-threatening example of fakery (fake supermoon pics) to plant the idea that nothing online can be trusted, within my social circles.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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The correct answer isn't to "switch feeds". It's to just turn it off. I'm happier, more productive and a better dad when I'm not being a feed-junkie. Maybe I'm an outlier.

Yes, but ignoring the news and political changes is kind of a luxury, it means your life is secure enough that you can afford not to pay much attention to any of that stuff because you feel confident it won't affect you personally.

Having a Facebook news feed and following news/politics are two different things. OP can quit Facebook and still go read the Washington Post.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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The power Google and Facebook hold to censor and selectively control what people see and hear is terrifying: https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/15/google-and-facebook-ban-fa...

In an important aspect, this is not any different han a library deciding to censor what information they make available. In the past this war has been waged before--As Google will ban news over quality of the information, librarians have banned books over the quality of the information. Once Tom Sawyer is banned, that sets a precedent to ban Catcher in the Rye, then Fahrenheit 451, then Animal Farm.

It's a very slippery slope, and it's absolutely terrifying to me.

I don't want to live in a world where few have absolute power over the many. If someone can control what you hear and see, they can control what you think.

Is Trump's election just a convenient excuse to seize this opportunity?

Thank you Snowden, I also am terrified by this.

Re: Snowden: Stop Relying on Facebook for Your News

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post #18

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I think you vastly overestimate the general populations ability to actively inform themselves.

I think you underestimate it. There's a really common bias where people assume everyone else is an idiot/bad driver/etc except themselves.

The amount of baseless unfactchecked political/social memes that are posted on my wall on a daily basis say otherwise.
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