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Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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That's incredible, congratulations! Care to share what you're working on? Or at least what process led you to the new project?

http://distillerylab.com Sounds boring to most probably, but I love to play with data! And we have real clients!

I cannot understand what service distillerylab provides. Did you get any leads from your web site?

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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hmm, you've reaffirmed my suspicions. The image suggestions for a google search of Twicsy was just adult material. The TechCrunch article in 2009 criticised the website for being creepy http://techcrunch.com/2009/06/19/twicsy-is-a-killer-and-kind... "As you might imagine, this service pulls up a lot of slightly personal pics, such as couples being all cutesy together. Since you don’t know any of them, it’s slightly c…

I regularly review the most trafficked pics on Twicsy and my rough estimate is that about 10-15% of the traffic is porn. But it is hard to know exactly because there is such a long tail of activity. My theory for why the associated words are usually porn is that there is less of long tail of activity when it comes to porn searches than regular searches. It didn't use to be this way, I think that 2 years ago roughly h…

I'm not blaming you in any way, nor do I have a moral issue with it. I suspect the percentage is higher though...

As you indicate advertisers have a major issue with it. The site being what it is, a search index of unfiltered twitter picture streams now hosted on your servers, you probably can't prevent it either… Severely impacts your ability to make money on it, unless you were willing to go over to the 'dark side' and get 'content-relevant' advertisers… (don't ask me how they make money, it's a mystery to me, I've never paid for it)

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I think what he means is that the ratio of the profits to the cost to discover a cure is much smaller than in other industries.

What she meane is that wellness is not a welcome topic in most circles, nor easily monetized. Everyone wants a new drug, literally or figuratively -- a quick fix, easy answer. No one wants to eat right, exercise, make dramatic lifestyle changes, etc. Wellness looks more like religious edicts than it does medicine. This I cannot comprehend. Compared to the drugs I have gotten off and the potential surgeries I have eva…

I'm not entirely sure what specifically you're talking about but if my cofounders or I can ever help at all, please email me tyler@stayinyourprime.com. I totally agree that wellness is not something most people want to do. We're building something that focuses on a core need some people actually do have with their health (getting their medical records automatically from any doctor) and as we go we'll be focusing more on how we can remove the stigma from wellness and health, etc.

You shouldn't ever have to feel guilty or alienated when talking about your health.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I can heavily relate to this with one of my early projects, Jellibug. It aggregated celebrity pictures from Instagram, Twitter, etc and at one point had 1M+ pictures and 250k+ visitors/month. Except it didn't make money and became a "piece of shit startup I hate to love". I stopped working on it about a year ago and finally shut it down last month. Almost all traffic to it was organic, just like Twicsy. And it was mo…

What are those 2 boring startups you run?

Also, a sneaky, probably short-term idea for making money is to have sneaky affiliate links with misleading anchor text like "Click to see the image", and point the affiliate link to an Amazon product page or something. Probably an easy few thousand dollars per month.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I'd love to do a free redesign for Twicsy. Email me (inlith@gmail.com) if you're interested. My portfolio is at madebyargon.com

I'm curious. Why free? Portfolio juice?

Free because I think the project has potential but the developer seems to not be interested in investing money on a redesign. If a free design can renew interest in the project, I think its a worthwhile cause.

On a related note, I also do free designs for open source projects (eg. vlc, ack). So if your have an open source project that you think could benefit from design, feel free to get in touch with me.

Working on such project helps me not just get my name out there, but also lets me learn a lot more than I can in commercial projects, since I usually get more creative freedom when I'm contributing my time rather than being paid for it.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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For those interested (notlisted appears to be!) here are some actual numbers from Google Analytics for October: Unique Visitors 6,461,357 Visits 7,592,870 Pageviews 28,461,178 Avg. Visit Duration 00:02:07 Geos USA: 1.6m visits Indonesia: 687k Japan: 569k not set: 513k UK: 369k Mexico: 261k Turkey: 247k France: 232k Germany: 213k Spain: 185k And an amazingly long tail from there. So that is definitely part of the prob…

I am. Like digging through analytics. Some people pay me for it (not a hint, just a fact). I feel something is missing in this story... Google has very few sites linking to yours (~35 pages, mostly garbage pages), reports a huge number of indexed pages, but actually shows very few. Why? Hummingbird update or something else? A search for Twicsy links in twitter finds hardly anything, except the site name in combinatio…

Great research. Now its not difficult to see why the traffic can't be monetized.. The traffic stats looks way off and not organic.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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Because I have 2 kids and I can't afford to work for no salary anymore! And the site needs a redesign.

I certainly understand needing to support your family. But I understand why investors are so leery. Additional $$$ in the business and a redesign would probably result in more users but probably not a substantial increase in revenue. Your monetization strategy is not working at 6 million(impressive btw) users then why would it work at 12 million users. There is a very small ROI with the current strategy. Properly mon…

As someone who is in "this space" and a product guy, @Dumbfounder, needs to refocus then rework the design. Its not much many to edit a decent psd designer then get it chopped off and ready for xhtml.I've done many Its a cheap way to get a slick new design in no time at all. Refine later. I have access to some who do high quality psd+css w/ good turn around time. You tell them what you want, toss around ideas and you get yourself a final product that needs little work. I

His pages have too much going on. Less is more. You should be able to clean things up and drip one 250x250 px ad for say 10-15 cents. Once the ui is reworked this will come to life. I like what he is going but right now he is doing too much. If you want to chat him me up. I am a front end dev and we could probably build some interesting things.

I am pretty sure I could bring its full potential out within 2 month of so while not spending much month at all.

@dumbfounder. If passionate. Reach out to me today.I have some free time this week to dicuss if you want.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I regularly review the most trafficked pics on Twicsy and my rough estimate is that about 10-15% of the traffic is porn. But it is hard to know exactly because there is such a long tail of activity. My theory for why the associated words are usually porn is that there is less of long tail of activity when it comes to porn searches than regular searches. It didn't use to be this way, I think that 2 years ago roughly h…

I'm not blaming you in any way, nor do I have a moral issue with it. I suspect the percentage is higher though... As you indicate advertisers have a major issue with it. The site being what it is, a search index of unfiltered twitter picture streams now hosted on your servers, you probably can't prevent it either… Severely impacts your ability to make money on it, unless you were willing to go over to the 'dark side'…

Sorry, didn't mean to sound defensive :)

The problem with "going to the dark side" is that I would be serving porn ads to all the Justin Bieber and One Direction fans in the world as well as the porn hounds. That would just be plain wrong.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I do not know what distillerylab.com does. On the site I found only general info about it. Could you say more, what you are doing there?

It's a BI platform for analyzing social media. Unfortunately, it's not presented very well.

At least you understood! To be more specific, we analyze specific topics for companies and quantify their presence in the market. Right now it is still hard to measure ROI on your PR and marketing, we are trying to change that.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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Because I have 2 kids and I can't afford to work for no salary anymore! And the site needs a redesign.

Just some honest constructive feedback here. Kinda just seems like an excuse to me...I don't have kids, so I can't empathize, however, it couldn't take THAT much time to work on monetization strategies. 6 million uniques on a consistent basis is pretty substantial attention, and attention = power, nowadays. Plus, why would an investor want to throw any more money at you when you've already somehow dropped well over a…

All that investment money went into previous products, only the underlying tech was taken to create Twicsy. Only about $30k was actually invested into Twicsy itself after that (just to pay my terrible salary). Since then I paid to keep Twicsy afloat out of my own pocket until this year when it finally started breaking even on raw costs (still can't afford to pay myself a salary).
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