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Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

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Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#152

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I know they need to control any possibility of a fire but man would it be a rude awakening to escape a significant plane crash, release your seatbelt while hanging upside down, make it to the exit door and then get sprayed in the face with cold water on a February day in Toronto.

Better cold water and not PFAS/firefighting foam edit: apparently Canada banned PFAS in firefighting foam.

The US Forest Service also banned firefighting foam in parks or anywhere where endangered species are found. Now that they're defunded I bet we're gonna get a lot more of that stuff everywhere

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#153

I've not seen any video of the crash. Usually, when there's a crash, dash cam or other amatuer video caught it. Which leads to my repeated bafflement as to why there are no video cameras constantly pointed at flight ops at the airport. If every 7-11 can have a security cam recording hi-def 24/7, why can't a couple of these be mounted in the tower pointed at the tarmac?

Video is making the rounds on Reddit now. https://www.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/1irzxq...

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#154

That's incredible. The plane literally turned over and burnt but no casualty. The flight staff must have done as amazing job keeping everyone calm and helped everyone get out of the upside, burning plane.

Yeah, a similar thing happened in Cork and half the passengers died. The operators were huge clowns though. Of course Delta is a legit operation.

> ...Delta is a legit operation.

Unless you're a checked bag.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#155

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How do you know there aren’t any? It seems a lot more likely the security managers aren’t in a hurry to release them to the public.

> How do you know there aren’t any? Have you ever seen one?

At an airport? They’re everywhere. Even the little tiny general aviation ones.

My dad flies out of I69. Their tower & ramp cameras are broadcast live. https://www.sportys.com/webcams

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#156

too many aircraft accidents these days what's the root cause

There are fewer and fewer accidents per passenger-mile every year (allowing for some noise because they are rare events)

You're just hearing about it more because there are more planes than ever before, and more media exposure than ever before.

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#157
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Air traffic controllers were not laid off. Nevermind that this is Toronto. And Delta pays for its own mechanics.

They are indeed being laid off

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2025/02/trump-begin...

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#158

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They have the video, they’re just not in a rush to release it to grumps like you :)

We'll see. How come we never see tower video of other crashes?

Because the press doesn’t publicize NTSB reports months after the crash. It doesn’t have the same sensational draw to earn clicks. Look up the NTSB docket management system where they release all the reports (just be aware that they list photos as “Text/Image” but videos as “Other”).

Re: Plane crashes, overturns during landing at Toronto airport

#160

Maybe we should build more railways. The ground is more stable than the air.

Just because the ground is more stable than the air doesn't mean there aren't train collisions. Air travel actually has a lower fatality rate per mile than trains do. Rail crossings can be dangerous places.

If we invested as much into rail safety as we do into air safety, it'd be fair to compare them. Regardless, in the long term rail transportation is simply much more sustainable and increased investment is very much warranted
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