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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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The few things I’ve tried on my iPad which supports Apple Intelligence haven’t worked so the fact that’s there’s a rollout of isolated features that is not clear to the user doesn’t help. I tried some of the stuff I saw in commercials and it failed miserably ha

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#152

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I assume they believe in the advantages, to the company, of using these AI tools. Of adding them to the workflow, training their employees, and understanding quickly how it impacts their space. If you just wait and all of your competitors have a workforce enabled and equipped with the best tools, you are at a disadvantage. It's being the company that put off computerization or automation when everyone else went wild.…

ChatGPT thinks 9.11 > 9.9. I'm in no hurry.

I spend way too much of my working life with package version ranges. It took me a minute to understand why this was wrong.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#153
I use Claude/ChatGPT a lot. I turned Apple Intelligence off. It was summarizing incoming text messages instead of showing me what people said at a quick glance.

Also, I don't really e-mail off my phone. If I'm going to write an e-mail, I would want to just write it and be done with it. To write it, have AI mangle it, then need to re-work it sounds like more work.

It'd be cool if you could tell me "show me all of my photos with ____" (I know that exists today, speaking of more advanced) but that's about all I can think of

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#154
The new features in 18.2 GA release are a total shit-show. I've never seen Apple software this rushed out the door before, probably to beat the end-of-year shutdown.

Image Playground is full of so many bugs and weird UX patterns.

- The app is called "Playgrounds". Weird, especially considering Apple already has an app called "Playgrounds" (full name: Swift Playgrounds). Fine, weird, and especially weird if you put yourself in the shoes of someone who has no idea what AI is or what Apple is building.

- When you launch it, it has to download models, a process which took over an hour on my internet connection, but it gives you no indication the models are downloading except one informational popup when you first launch the app; nor the download's progress.

- Instead, I was placed into the full app experience, where I was allowed to try to generate images. The generations would fail with an error.

- However, the error is totally unreadable because its presented as a toast at the top of the screen, rendering underneath the dynamic island. All I could see was the first few and last few characters.

- I've heard confusion from two friends (techy-bubble of course) on "why can I only generate variations on these four friends" Its because the list of people you can generate images of seems to come from the list of facial recognition targets in Apple Photos. Yup. None of my friends who have tried this pay for Apple Photos, so their photos aren't being backed up, their list of generation targets are only those in recently taken images.

- You can upload arbitrary images to the model. But its... well, it doesn't do anything predictable. A picture of a bookshelf imagegens a piano. A picture of a person complains with an error clipping the dynamic island "choose a photo with the face more in view". A picture of a black SUV imagegens a yellow jeep. The immediate sense I got is that they're feeding the uploaded image into a "describe this image" LLM, summarizing it, then feeding that back into the imagegen model.

- There is one additional option in this menu, labeled "Appearance". I dare you to click that, put yourself in the shoes of someone who doesn't browse HackerNews every day, and try to understand why that's there and what it does. I think its presenting a way to generate a generic AI generated human, without a source real image? You get the choice of skin tone, and then some kind of ever-changing collage of Vibes of the person you want generated? I can't even explain what's going on because even I'm confused, its incomprehensible.

- The share sheet breaks like 20% of the time. On one occasion this break crashed the app with a popup that displayed a stack trace.

- We were told we'd be able to generate images in three unique styles: Sketch, Animation, and Illustration. Only two of these are available (Sketch is absent) [1].

Its really bad, even when it works the images it generates are pretty trash.

[1] https://youtu.be/RXeOiIDNNek?t=4180

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#155

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> And FWIW, I cannot imagine a programmer, in 2024, that remains dismissive of LLMs or the related tooling. Hi. > While they are grossly oversold by the LinkedIn crowd, That is true. > and are still a far ways from so-called "prompt engineers" replacing devs, Also true. > they're a massive accelerator and "second set of eyes", especially if you're doing varied, novel work. That is not even remotely my experience. Lik…

>Hi. I was being dismissively rhetorical. I can actually imagine them because we see them on HN constantly, with a Luddism that somehow actually becomes a rather hilarious attempt at superiority. A "well if you actually get use out of them, I guess you're just not at my superior level of Unique Projects and Unique Code". It's honestly just embarrassing at this point. >but bluntly put, the code I work on day to day is…

That was a whole lotta words to say "Nuh uh." and as such I don't really have a response.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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> This could be read as 27% of users Not necessarily. Poll results are not %Pro + %Con = 100%. It could equally be likely that 83% find no use and 27% have not tried it leaving 0% liking it.

The data is in the linked survey: https://www.sellcell.com/blog/iphone-vs-samsung-ai-survey/ - 11.1% of iPhone's users felt the AI features were "very valuable" - 5.9% of Samsung Galaxy's users felt the AI features were "very valuable"

So what's the 3rd category since the numbers do not add to 100?

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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What I don't understand is, what benefit is there for 99% of companies to get in on the ground floor of LLMs? If you're not developing your own model, you're effectively just beta testing someone else's model. And if the sales pitch of LLMs being able to do basically anything comes true, wouldn't most companies still get the same benefit if they just wait? It seems like a lot of companies are so terrified of missing…

I said the same thing to a previous company before I was let go. Confused why they were butchering their business strategy in favor of a gold rush. The main benefit of LLMs was already abundantly clear: literally just chat with it in day to day work when you can. Ask it questions about accounting, other domains it knows, etc. That's like up to 10-20% performance increase on tasks if you align OK. Still, they were in…

> The main benefit of LLMs was already abundantly clear

In my industry the main benefit (so far) is taking all of our human-legible unstructured data and translating it into computer-legible structured data. Loving it.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#158

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I assume they believe in the advantages, to the company, of using these AI tools. Of adding them to the workflow, training their employees, and understanding quickly how it impacts their space. If you just wait and all of your competitors have a workforce enabled and equipped with the best tools, you are at a disadvantage. It's being the company that put off computerization or automation when everyone else went wild.…

ChatGPT thinks 9.11 > 9.9. I'm in no hurry.

ChatGPT knows about other domains (e.g. software versions) where that inequality is true. Try telling it you’re doing arithmetic.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

#159
This seems largely like the new Apple, a company playing defensive/reactionary to shareholder impression, has to chase whatever the latest public craze is. During the Jobs era, it was whatever Steve thought was cool. Which was sometimes wrong as well, but it was less derivative than this new norm.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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The crazy thing to me means that people are okay with recording 100% of every meeting they ever have. I've been in plenty of meetings where you just don't want things recorded, and no, that does not mean the meeting was shady.

Other than legally sensitive topics, what meetings would you not want recorded? Do people take notes or are they just totally ephemeral?

The number of meetings I attend where no notes are taken dwarfs the number with notes taken. Clearly, I must live in a different universe from the rest of everyone here where notes are taken at every meeting
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