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Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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throwawaycuriou wrote: post #132
ayushnix wrote: post #122

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> I've been rocking a DIY edition running Manjaro Sway community edition. Have you enabled fractional scaling on your DIY? How well do applications work? Firefox, for example, goes haywire and its popup menus start flickering as soon as fractional scaling is enabled.

My sway config has `output eDP-1 scale 1.25`. I started out with 1.5 liked it but eventually felt text still a little too large. At 1.25 I am finding I need to bump font size up with some sites. I've not seen tearing or any other graphical artifacts in any applications. I use fusuma for gestures. Had to change BAT0 to BAT1 in waybar config to get the battery to show up. Had to install Intel's WiFi drivers, probably b…

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Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by RL_Quine »

frosted-flakes wrote: post #152
RL_Quine wrote: post #149

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Right but it's USB C, not thunderbolt.

Do you mean USB 3? USB-C is the port, not the protocol.

"USB 3" is also ambiguous as hell. It's unfortunately talking about one of perhaps 10 different protocols, some of which are different depending on what year you are speaking of, because there's name collisions between incompatible versions.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by southerntofu »

lights0123 wrote: post #147
southerntofu wrote: post #131

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> (for the fingerprint reader) Wait, Framework has a fingerprint reader? Hope it's not built-in. That's a strong security anti-feature to have in an otherwise good-looking laptop.

It's on the power button, but there's no need to use it if you don't want it.

Sure, i'm just disappointed they would force this on everyone. First, because it means they vet the practice while we should strongly discourage it (if not for ethical, at least for security reasons). Second, because Framework laptop sounds good otherwise, but i really don't want to financially support corporations who buy into this biometrics hellscape.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by phreeza »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #126
nisegami wrote: post #2

I can't remember the last time I so badly wanted a company to succeed AND also believed it was possible for them to thrive. I think the landscape is right: awareness of reparability is probably at the highest its ever been, along with access to information and tools. The chip shortage and general lack of breakthrough gains in processing aside from Zen has stalled the upgrade cycles a bit, giving Framework time to dig…

> The chip shortage I agree that this is the time to shout loud about the need for reparability, But an average consumer doesn't even know that manufacturers from automobile industry to consumer electronics are silently switching their internals due to the chip shortage[1]. Yet still the automobile industry is way better in terms of reparability, 1950s Mercedez Benz, Porsche can still get official parts and yes they'…

> if I drop a minute old $1000 phone and it goes to garbage because it cannot be repaired its not luxury it's garbage

Pretty sure if you drop a Porsche from 1m at a random angle it also goes in the garbage.

Better comparisons are maybe things like Commodore 64s or Ataris, for which there are spare parts and active Enthusiast scenes still available. Not sure if that will ever be the case for iPhones, but I could imagine it happening for Mac's or Macbooks.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

phreeza wrote: post #155
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #126

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> The chip shortage I agree that this is the time to shout loud about the need for reparability, But an average consumer doesn't even know that manufacturers from automobile industry to consumer electronics are silently switching their internals due to the chip shortage[1]. Yet still the automobile industry is way better in terms of reparability, 1950s Mercedez Benz, Porsche can still get official parts and yes they'…

> if I drop a minute old $1000 phone and it goes to garbage because it cannot be repaired its not luxury it's garbage Pretty sure if you drop a Porsche from 1m at a random angle it also goes in the garbage. Better comparisons are maybe things like Commodore 64s or Ataris, for which there are spare parts and active Enthusiast scenes still available. Not sure if that will ever be the case for iPhones, but I could imagi…

Commodore 64 enthusiasts don't go around calling it a 'luxury' product.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by phreeza »

jedimastert wrote: post #61

You know what I would love to see? The mechanical keyboard community get a hold of this. Actually, what would be kinda cool and a bit more "practical" (in a since, at least) would be an option without any keyboard at all (plain aluminum or like plexiglass or acrylic or something) so I can use my own keyboard. I know from experience my Planck or Atreus fit on top of a normal laptop keyboard footprint, but I always fee…

You might be interested in the MNT reform:

https://mntre.com/media/reform_md/2020-05-08-the-much-more-p...

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by yepthatsreality »

yissp wrote: post #106
yepthatsreality wrote: post #44

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All the expansion bays (4) are already USBC and you don’t need a module for it.

Plugging a peripheral directly into the expansion bay would be awkward, you'd need to sort of reach under the chassis. $9 for the "pass-through" USB modules doesn't seem too outrageous, though.

Agreed but I wanted to highlight the fact that it has 4 USBC ports which is rare for a laptop.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by throwawaycuriou »

ayushnix wrote: post #150
throwawaycuriou wrote: post #132

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My sway config has `output eDP-1 scale 1.25`. I started out with 1.5 liked it but eventually felt text still a little too large. At 1.25 I am finding I need to bump font size up with some sites. I've not seen tearing or any other graphical artifacts in any applications. I use fusuma for gestures. Had to change BAT0 to BAT1 in waybar config to get the battery to show up. Had to install Intel's WiFi drivers, probably b…

> My sway config has `output eDP-1 scale 1.25`. I started out with 1.5 liked it but eventually felt text still a little too large. At 1.25 I am finding I need to bump font size up with some sites. I've not seen tearing or any other graphical artifacts in any applications. The last time I enabled fractional scaling in Sway, I quit using Sway and Wayland in frustration and moved back to i3. Firefox, and many other appl…

Sorry to hear that it wasn't working well for you. I'm sure there's a pile of edge cases yet to resolve in Wayland and its compositors. I can only say that for my experience on this very bleeding edge of hardware, kernel, tiling manager, I'm not encountering anything of import. I saw some flicker in tooltips on Bitwarden FF extension's popup window yesterday. I can live with that. Hopefully you'll have a better experience soon.
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