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Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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kvark wrote: post #28
_qbjt wrote: post #22

This is exciting! I do wonder how Framework will handle some of the logistical challenges associated with running a hardware company, namely distribution. I’ve been waiting on my Framework DIY Edition for several weeks now - it was estimated to arrive a couple of weeks ago but seems to be stuck in the purgatory that is Portland / Troutdale FedEx. Of course everything is kinda upside down in the world at the moment an…

I just received my DYI edition. I'm in Canada, and it was shipped 2 days ago. No extra charges. Best logistics experience I had in a while :)

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Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by ayushnix »

throwawaycuriou wrote: post #95

About a month back I decided it's long past due for me to try a tiling window manager. I've been rocking a DIY edition running Manjaro Sway community edition. There's been a learning curve coming from ChromeOS but I'm ecstatic. It feels like the first time I've had hardware and software tailored towards the priorities I have for a computer. The only thing I haven't gotten sorted is Bluetooth. I got it working once bu…

> I've been rocking a DIY edition running Manjaro Sway community edition.

Have you enabled fractional scaling on your DIY? How well do applications work? Firefox, for example, goes haywire and its popup menus start flickering as soon as fractional scaling is enabled.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by ayushnix »

neatze wrote: post #33

Will it ever ship with coreboot and linux support ?

You'll have to live with fractional scaling if you buy the FrameWork laptop. I know many people will say it works "perfectly" for them even though fractional scaling is discouraged by almost every DE and window manager (including sway), not to mention many applications exhibit weird behavior like weird placement of popup menus or popup menus simply disappearing or flickering.

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Post by LilBytes »

killingtime74 wrote: post #109
beefjerkins wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also located in Aus, and I'm chomping at the bit to get my hands on one. Would love to support this company as much as I can!

I'm in Aus, why wait, why not use a freight forwarder? They aren’t offering local warranty anyway

Wait, how do you mean they're not offering local warranty?

If we purchased one through a forwarder, we'd be able to RMA individual parts still? Or not?

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Post by fulafel »

uoaei wrote: post #78
fulafel wrote: post #13

Aren't the expansion modules all just things that are standard ports and storage options on normal laptops? Would be cool if they offered something a little specialized. But of course if the current setup lets them offer the base laptop with less ports at a reduced price compared to a less modular laptop with more standard ports, it could be a win too.

"Normal laptops" don't have many of those ports anymore, only available via dongle. I don't know what examples you refer to that are less expensive or more user-friendly.

The common business ThinkPad, eg T19 or X1, has all these ports, plus more, eg internal LTE modem.

Edit: actually in the current models, the SD reader is missing.

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

nisegami wrote: post #2

I can't remember the last time I so badly wanted a company to succeed AND also believed it was possible for them to thrive. I think the landscape is right: awareness of reparability is probably at the highest its ever been, along with access to information and tools. The chip shortage and general lack of breakthrough gains in processing aside from Zen has stalled the upgrade cycles a bit, giving Framework time to dig…

> The chip shortage

I agree that this is the time to shout loud about the need for reparability, But an average consumer doesn't even know that manufacturers from automobile industry to consumer electronics are silently switching their internals due to the chip shortage[1].

Yet still the automobile industry is way better in terms of reparability, 1950s Mercedez Benz, Porsche can still get official parts and yes they're luxury products but tech media calls the consumer electronics brand which sells >$1000 phone as luxury brand too; May be it's just for aspiration porn but if I drop a minute old $1000 phone and it goes to garbage because it cannot be repaired its not luxury it's garbage.

[1] https://needgap.com/problems/234-what-has-been-removed-due-t... (Disclaimer: I run this).

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by ajvs »

forty wrote: post #35
mfer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More ports? There are 4 slots and you can put in what you want. If you want all 4 to be USB-C you can have that. Are you looking for more than 4 slots? If that's the case you'll have to wait for different processors. I think the ones they are using only support up to 4 slots.

Personally I'd like more external ports. My current laptop have like 2 usb-c 2 usb-a, 1 HDMI, 1 Ethernet, 1 audio jack and 1sd reader, which I find pretty convenient for most situations. I think the 4 internal ports are more than enough, but sometimes just being able to plug more stuff at the same time is nice. And I would miss Ethernet currently :)

You could just use a USB hub if you need so many extra.

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Post by Liskni_si »

alshel wrote: post #9
stormbrew wrote: post #7

I really hope they add a keyboard with better arrow key/home/end/pgup/pgdn keys at some point. This is literally one of the most important factors for me in a laptop because I hate the way most laptops do them.

What laptops have that without having a number pad as well? I know my macbook doesn’t have a better hone/end/pgup/pgdn. I personally hate laptops with number pads because the keyboard is then off center, so I just accept this sacrifice on laptops. I do really wish they had macbook-like arrow keys, which are very effective for touch typing since the half-size makes them easy to feel.

All ThinkPads up to T420/X220 (2011) have a proper delete/home/end/pgup/pgdown block at the top right. And then the 2017 ThinkPad 25 anniversary edition, which is what I'm using right now and hoping it lasts until there is a proper replacement on the market.

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Post by southerntofu »

Aromasin wrote: post #5
0des wrote: post #3

I can't wait to own one of these when they start offering AMD

Simply out of curiosity, why do you have this sentiment? I've seen it given a lot as the reason why people don't want to buy one yet, but the performance differences are slim compared the current Tiger Lake option; perhaps 10-20% on certain quad core workloads, more if optimized for octa, but worse on single and dual. Additionally, by the time the Ryzen CPU comes along, likely the Alder Lake processor will be release…

Not sure AMD is any better, but Intel is pretty bad. They're basically a huge monopoly who constantly pushed for anti-features.

Want to own your device? No you don't, Intel does via Management Engine and other universal backdoors. Want to own your system? No you don't, you "need" Intel's microcode to fix all the bugs Intel had on release day [0].

Also, i heard recent AMD processors have tight PCIe integration (> 20 lanes), which if you need a dedicated GPU or network card is a huge bonus, but doesn't matter if you don't.

[0] Yes, i've witnessed with my own eyes CPUs that would fail to boot an OS without Intel's proprietary mirocode.

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