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Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by southerntofu »

StoneTable wrote: post #40
neatze wrote: post #33

Will it ever ship with coreboot and linux support ?

Coreboot is something they want to do, and are hiring for: https://jobs.lever.co/framework/af82bd1b-7ebd-46da-8ae4-7dab... As for Linux support, it's already there. There are papercuts, like needing a fairly recent kernel and certain packages (for the fingerprint reader), but it works fine, by all accounts. I'm expecting my DIY edition to ship in the next week or so, and I'll be running Linux on it full-time.

> (for the fingerprint reader)

Wait, Framework has a fingerprint reader? Hope it's not built-in. That's a strong security anti-feature to have in an otherwise good-looking laptop.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by throwawaycuriou »

ayushnix wrote: post #122
throwawaycuriou wrote: post #95

About a month back I decided it's long past due for me to try a tiling window manager. I've been rocking a DIY edition running Manjaro Sway community edition. There's been a learning curve coming from ChromeOS but I'm ecstatic. It feels like the first time I've had hardware and software tailored towards the priorities I have for a computer. The only thing I haven't gotten sorted is Bluetooth. I got it working once bu…

> I've been rocking a DIY edition running Manjaro Sway community edition. Have you enabled fractional scaling on your DIY? How well do applications work? Firefox, for example, goes haywire and its popup menus start flickering as soon as fractional scaling is enabled.

My sway config has `output eDP-1 scale 1.25`. I started out with 1.5 liked it but eventually felt text still a little too large. At 1.25 I am finding I need to bump font size up with some sites. I've not seen tearing or any other graphical artifacts in any applications.

I use fusuma for gestures. Had to change BAT0 to BAT1 in waybar config to get the battery to show up. Had to install Intel's WiFi drivers, probably because the Sway edition is on 5.10 kernel. I've upped to 5.14 without any noticeable issues.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by tionis »

mfer wrote: post #87
mfer wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the wizard you get modules. You can hot swap modules because the are really USB-C under the hood. The laptop essentially has 4 USB-C ports and a module system to plug adapters in. You can avoid dongles this way. I'm not entirely sure why they did 4. 4 is more than other competitor laptops in this size category have. It could have to do with what the processor can handle or the space in a form factor of this size.

Looking further at the chips, they only support up to 4 external displays. I wonder if 4 is somehow otherwise a factor down to the CPU/integrated GPU level.

It's 4 because tiger lake CPUs have 4 pcie lanes and the usb ports are thunderbolt and thus require an entire lane for full speed

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by IYasha »

stormbrew wrote: post #7

I really hope they add a keyboard with better arrow key/home/end/pgup/pgdn keys at some point. This is literally one of the most important factors for me in a laptop because I hate the way most laptops do them.

Absolutely agree. Paging keys are essential. This laptop is huge, but keyboard is crippled. And small lapotps with good heyboards ARE TOTALLY POSSIBLE. Obvious ThinkPads aside, look up ASUS U6Sg, which was an IDEAL laptop in every aspect except power consumption (thanks, Intel!).

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by IYasha »

Aromasin wrote: post #5
0des wrote: post #3

I can't wait to own one of these when they start offering AMD

Simply out of curiosity, why do you have this sentiment? I've seen it given a lot as the reason why people don't want to buy one yet, but the performance differences are slim compared the current Tiger Lake option; perhaps 10-20% on certain quad core workloads, more if optimized for octa, but worse on single and dual. Additionally, by the time the Ryzen CPU comes along, likely the Alder Lake processor will be release…

Hope for lesser amount of backdoors.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by IYasha »

zuhsetaqi wrote: post #129

Biggest bummer is that they're not using AMD chips. Does anyone know why?

Not sure of today, but a few years ago, AMD was harder to work with - getting parts, documentation, expamples, SDKs, etc. etc. (If you're not Sony). As I was told, lots of AMD initiatives towards openness were discontinued when AMD was taken over by new director(s) and became the "team red".

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by kadoban »

OJFord wrote: post #111
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always appreciated LTT, while acknowledging that they do contribute to the tech-industry product innovation churn. They seem self-aware and truly knowledgeable about the tech.

I've probably only seen a few partial videos, (out of not wanting to see more of them) but it just comes across as consumer tech blog masquerading as more technical to me.

It's a mix of different content, most of it not terribly technical except that a bunch of it is PC components. It's about as technical as mainstream content gets though.

One thing of note, it's where a good portion of a generation of nerds learned how to build a computer, so it gets some cred for that.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by teh_klev »

zuhsetaqi wrote: post #129

Biggest bummer is that they're not using AMD chips. Does anyone know why?

I believe it's about getting attention and committing to a supplier a certain amount of orders so you get to deal with them directly.

If Framework had split the manufacture of this machine between Intel and AMD then the volume of chips may not have been enough to be in a tier one relationship with either. And so you you need to pick one, and they probably felt that going with Intel first was the safe bet.

I'm sure AMD will come along soon.

Re: The Frame.work Marketplace Opened

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Post by sylens »

OJFord wrote: post #111
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always appreciated LTT, while acknowledging that they do contribute to the tech-industry product innovation churn. They seem self-aware and truly knowledgeable about the tech.

I've probably only seen a few partial videos, (out of not wanting to see more of them) but it just comes across as consumer tech blog masquerading as more technical to me.

not everybody is in their audience, but I find they generally do a decent job of trying to explain the concepts and ideas they are planning to talk about or review in a video. It can often be a good primer for bringing someone up to speed before sending them off to find more info.
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