‘Misogynistic’ Apple hire is out hours after employees call for investigation

Post by SpicyLemonZest » Thu, May 13, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

mdc2161 wrote: post #143

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #132

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I really hope this comment gets higher on the page, because I think it explains the situation really well. I was going to make a comment mentioning how the asymmetry in what is allowed in big companies frustrates me greatly. People who express disdain towards the current social structure and disparage groups like white men get hired left and right while people who vocally express support for older social structures g…

> People who express disdain towards the current social structure and disparage groups like white men get hired left and right Have you seen _any_ major tech company with close to 50% women or 40% non-hispanic white employees? In engineering roles? That's just aiming for parity with U.S. demographics, but when you consider how much of the world travels to the U.S. to work in tech, that 40% number should be much highe…

Post by pseudalopex » Thu, May 13, 2021, 7:35 PM UTC

kwisatzh wrote: post #120

pseudalopex wrote: post #112

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The petition quoted paragraphs and even pages of the book. Hours is enough time to download the book and verify he wrote those things.

He wrote one of the most quoted passages as a comparison to the mother of his kids. Most SV women don’t live up to this woman, whom he was lucky to get with, according to him. You need more than mere ‘hours’ to get the context.

Post by mdc2161 » Fri, May 14, 2021, 5:03 PM UTC

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #151

mdc2161 wrote: post #143

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> People who express disdain towards the current social structure and disparage groups like white men get hired left and right Have you seen _any_ major tech company with close to 50% women or 40% non-hispanic white employees? In engineering roles? That's just aiming for parity with U.S. demographics, but when you consider how much of the world travels to the U.S. to work in tech, that 40% number should be much highe…

> Have you seen _any_ major tech company with close to 50% women or 40% non-hispanic white employees? In engineering roles? Depends on what you'd consider close. Apple, for example, reports 47% white non-Hispanic employees overall and 44% in engineering. ( https://www.apple.com/diversity/ ) From my personal experience, I've never worked on a team where white people were a majority, although in one case I think the co…

Post by jessaustin » Fri, May 14, 2021, 9:31 PM UTC

elliekelly wrote: post #14

diebeforei485 wrote: post #8

(1) It was interesting to see Apple employees organizing on Twitter. They don't really have any companywide chat or email lists, but some groups have a Slack (only for that group). (2) In the book he was comparing his pregnant British girlfriend to other women in the Bay Area, intended more to make her look good than others look bad. I don't think any malice was involved. (3) I hope he's getting some sort of severanc…

“She’s not like other girls” is a sexist thing to say and it isn’t a compliment. Even still, this: > Most women in the Bay Area are soft and weak, cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit Is not really something that can be said “without malice” no matter the context.

  s/women/people/

Post by raxxorrax » Tue, May 18, 2021, 8:15 AM UTC

ako wrote: post #134

williamsmj wrote: post #40

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If anyone thinks this is a case of "cancel culture wokerati you can't say anything these days", I can only assume you've never heard of the guy. Read the many, lengthy direct quotes from his writing in https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/12/22432909/apple-petition-h... . This is a guy who has made a writing/speaking career of knowingly saying crassly offensive and, at best, childishly naughty things about entire classes…

According to a review in the New York Times: "Mr. García is not just a keen observer of corporate and social culture, but a thoughtful business and policy analyst armed with a highly refined detector for pretentious nonsense. " See: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/29/business/dealbook/review-...