Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 419 posts

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#151

Post by kinkrtyavimoodh »

dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

The same is going to happen for Apple's "Professional" Macbooks.

2015 I think was the last year they made a decent Macbook? Since then it's been the touch bar (annoying but functional but potentially useful) and an absolute shit-show of a keyboard.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#152

Post by rubicon33 »

dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

I'm with you. I've been on my 5S since it released. Why? The small form factor + it still works really well.

I'm only just starting to notice some slow down that is annoying me, so I will be upgrading to the SE.

Like you, I sure hope their analytics shows that I could have updated all along to ANY of the phones, but after all these years, I chose the SE. Oh, and I tried Android too. Hard to explain why, but it just wasn't for me.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#154

Post by z6 »

mlindner wrote: post #85
meritt wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's never been about price, it's about form factor. The iPhone 7 is 28% larger (HxW) than the iPhone SE. That's precisely why I've refused to upgrade to the later versions too: They're absurdly large.

I went from iPhone 5 to iPhone XS and I thought I would have problems with it's size but it's not so bad. It's not too large comparatively.

But it is significantly larger, and it is also significantly heavier (weighs 50% more). The weight aspect is often ignored, but I found it very noticeable when I tried the XS. https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Apple-iPhone-SE,Apple...

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#155

Post by fooker »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #151
dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

The same is going to happen for Apple's "Professional" Macbooks. 2015 I think was the last year they made a decent Macbook? Since then it's been the touch bar (annoying but functional but potentially useful) and an absolute shit-show of a keyboard.

Agreed. Not buying a new MBP until they have usable keyboards again.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#156

Post by spiderfarmer »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #151
dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

The same is going to happen for Apple's "Professional" Macbooks. 2015 I think was the last year they made a decent Macbook? Since then it's been the touch bar (annoying but functional but potentially useful) and an absolute shit-show of a keyboard.

Yes! I have that laptop and if it breaks I’ll try to somehow buy the same model again. It was perfect. The new ones feel so bad that I prefer the feel of the bottom of the barrel Acer laptop keyboards to the high end Apple ones.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#157

Post by josteink »

ksec wrote: post #120
sfcguyus wrote: post #106

I 'downgraded' from an iPhone XS to an iPhone SE. I had misplaced my XS and got an SE temporarily. Best thing to have ever happened - the iPhone SE is the best iPhone apple has ever made. So much so that I have an XS and the SE and cannot get back to the XS. I know HN has some weird opinions sometimes that aren't representative of a majority. But I genuinely think if people used this or gave it a shot they wouldn't s…

As a Phone, a Communication Devices, and Social Network, I could may be want the iPhone SE had an Edge to Edge Design, but other than that I agree it is perfect. As a Media Consumption devices, that is mostly video and Gaming. The iPhone SE size just doesn't work. Sometimes I kept thinking if I just ditch gaming and I could have a smaller phone. Hopefully Apple will come up with a 5" Full Display SE size iPhone, and…

> Hopefully Apple will come up with a 5" Full Display SE size iPhon

With 5” display it’s not going to be a SE, but just another big iPhone.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#158

Post by crooked-v »

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #151
dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

The same is going to happen for Apple's "Professional" Macbooks. 2015 I think was the last year they made a decent Macbook? Since then it's been the touch bar (annoying but functional but potentially useful) and an absolute shit-show of a keyboard.

I've crossed off all Macbooks from my mental map of future purchases until they fix the keyboard and either get rid of the Touch Bar or make it actually do something useful. If/when my current laptop dies, I have no idea what'd get instead. Probably some other machine with a non-terrible keyboard to turn into a Hackintosh.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#159

Post by AnthonyMouse »

dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

Selling a new small phone is a market problem for Apple.

The form factor inherently makes it less expensive to manufacture. Bigger screens cost more etc. Which creates a pricing problem for them.

If they price it like a small phone (i.e. lower price) they cannibalize sales of larger phones with higher total margins, and lose money. If they price it with the same total margin as the larger phones, it'd still be the lowest priced current generation phone in their lineup, but would then compare very poorly on price to similar spec Android phones, which makes their brand look overpriced (as opposed to premium).

About the only way it would make sense is to make it a premium product. Give it the fastest available processor etc. so it can justify a premium price despite the size. But that's a difficult engineering problem. A faster processor uses more power and generates more heat, but smaller phones have less room for a big battery and less surface area to dissipate heat. And finding a solution for that is extra hard because what it needs is an advantage relative to larger phones, but if you improve performance per watt or battery density in general then the same improvement can go into the larger phone too and you still have no relative advantage.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#160

Post by sdan »

josteink wrote: post #157
ksec wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Phone, a Communication Devices, and Social Network, I could may be want the iPhone SE had an Edge to Edge Design, but other than that I agree it is perfect. As a Media Consumption devices, that is mostly video and Gaming. The iPhone SE size just doesn't work. Sometimes I kept thinking if I just ditch gaming and I could have a smaller phone. Hopefully Apple will come up with a 5" Full Display SE size iPhone, and…

> Hopefully Apple will come up with a 5" Full Display SE size iPhon With 5” display it’s not going to be a SE, but just another big iPhone.

I think he meant 5" without bezels. That way you'd get to utilize more screen space within the small form factor.
Post reply on HN