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Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by geofft »

dlgeek wrote: post #2

Can someone provide context as to why this is newsworthy for those of us who don't follow Apple's every move? (I failed trying to rephrase this to sound less sarcastic, but I'm genuinely looking for context here).

The iPhone SE is the smallest smartphone that gets security updates, of any platform. (And in 2010 or so it would have been bigger than any smartphone not being called a "phablet," so it's not so much that it's small as that it's the only reasonable-sized phone left in many people's opinions.)

If Apple's historical support practice keeps up, it'll remain in support until late 2020 or 2021.

Sent from my iPhone SE

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by Bud »

taurath wrote: post #71
o10449366 wrote: post #7

The one thing that Apple does well is prolonged support for their phones. I switched away from Android phones because I got sick of buying the latest flagships only to have them lose software, hardware, and security support 12-24 months after release. The new iPhones don't appeal to me, but I'm satisfied knowing I can get a few more years out of my SE. I got my battery replaced 4 months ago after owning it for two ye…

I’m not so sure anymore - I have a 3.5 year old iPhone 6s, and replaced the battery with a brand new on from the Apple store not 6 months ago - already, the new battery is worse than the old one a year into the phones life. Random shut offs at 10% and not getting through a day are regular occurances, something that didn’t happen at all the first 2 years

That sounds more like there's another hardware issue with your phone than it sounds like a systemic issue with Apple.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by Bud »

trazire wrote: post #17
o10449366 wrote: post #7

The one thing that Apple does well is prolonged support for their phones. I switched away from Android phones because I got sick of buying the latest flagships only to have them lose software, hardware, and security support 12-24 months after release. The new iPhones don't appeal to me, but I'm satisfied knowing I can get a few more years out of my SE. I got my battery replaced 4 months ago after owning it for two ye…

Yea, that's one thing that I envy Apple for. I legitimately still use the iPhone 4S as my daily driver. It had software updates for around 5 years and has iOS 9. Still works as an alarm clock, a music player, and for everything else I use it for. But it's also important to consider that lack of Android upgrades are also slightly disregardable, as API and app level updates will exist for years, and the majority of old…

That leaves users wide open to the quintillions of security issues with older Android which will never be patched, though.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by Alterlife »

ericabiz wrote: post #27
trazire wrote: post #9

$249 is still a little overpriced considering alternative options, especially with a refurb/used iPhone 7 going for really cheap. As in, like, $160 on Ebay and more expensive for refurbs and new ones. But hey, that's how they get rid of extra inventory. Not sure why it was delisted in the first place and not just put there, but that's their prerogative.

The iPhone 7/7 Plus is the series I tell everyone to avoid purchasing. We refuse to stock them for resale as well, and it’s gotten so bad we even have customers sign a disclaimer when they bring them in for repair. (Note: We are not Apple authorized, so this is our policy, not Apple’s.) They have a serious manufacturing defect commonly known as the “Audio IC” issue. Apple downplays it, but eventually it hits almost e…

Well shit.

I bought an iphone 7 this year and was planning on keeping it for a while. I did find some issues when searching the internet for iphone 7 problems, but my wife has an iphone 7 plus from when it came out and it's still working flawlessly.

Is there anywhere I can look before buying a few years old iphone series?

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by mlindner »

meritt wrote: post #61
trazire wrote: post #9

$249 is still a little overpriced considering alternative options, especially with a refurb/used iPhone 7 going for really cheap. As in, like, $160 on Ebay and more expensive for refurbs and new ones. But hey, that's how they get rid of extra inventory. Not sure why it was delisted in the first place and not just put there, but that's their prerogative.

It's never been about price, it's about form factor. The iPhone 7 is 28% larger (HxW) than the iPhone SE. That's precisely why I've refused to upgrade to the later versions too: They're absurdly large.

I went from iPhone 5 to iPhone XS and I thought I would have problems with it's size but it's not so bad. It's not too large comparatively.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by ascagnel_ »

vbezhenar wrote: post #24
kumarvvr wrote: post #8

This is a refurbished one. I don't get why people still buy SE when you have a multitude of better phones from other companies, say Samsung or OnePlus.

I think that iPhone 4 (and subsequent copies including SE) has the best design ever, still unmatched by any phone. And iOS, of course. I really hope for SE 2. Might be SE X :) I bought 8, but I can’t get used to its huge screen after my 4S. The only feature that I like is wireless charging.

The iPhones 4 looked like high-end cameras, not cell phones. I still think it’s the best-looking set of phones anyone’s produced.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by fastball »

FreakyT wrote: post #42
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #35

This was my favourite phone. Fast. Stable. Flat, easy-to-grip sides and a screen size designed to impress me, not Samsung executives. If they gave it new internals and electronic SIM capabilities, I’d pay $1,000 for it.

Why would you ever want eSIM support? The very existence of eSIM is completely antithetical to reason SIM cards were created in the first place. Without physical SIM cards, you're forced to grovel to your wireless provider to please provision your phone, and they can refuse to do so for any reason. With SIM cards, there's no limit to what devices you can use on what networks, outside of hardware ones. I find it ridic…

That ship already sailed when Apple introduced the concept of "locked" phones.

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Post by culturestate »

geofft wrote: post #73
FreakyT wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you ever want eSIM support? The very existence of eSIM is completely antithetical to reason SIM cards were created in the first place. Without physical SIM cards, you're forced to grovel to your wireless provider to please provision your phone, and they can refuse to do so for any reason. With SIM cards, there's no limit to what devices you can use on what networks, outside of hardware ones. I find it ridic…

My experience (with AT&T prepaid in the US) is that SIM cards are associated with IMEIs and don't work with a new IMEI without my phone company approving it. So it's not functionally different from CDMA. CDMA was fine; the overhead of swapping phones when I was on CDMA is comparable to the current overhead, and I don't recall anything else I missed from not having a physical SIM card.

Off the top of my head, I can't recall running into this anywhere I've been in the world (excluding the US) in the last few years. I carry a beater Android phone when I travel and I often swap it in for my iPhone in situations where I'm afraid I might lose or damage my phone (or it might get pickpocketed) and it's usually a seamless process with local prepaid SIMs.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by jen20 »

FreakyT wrote: post #42
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #35

This was my favourite phone. Fast. Stable. Flat, easy-to-grip sides and a screen size designed to impress me, not Samsung executives. If they gave it new internals and electronic SIM capabilities, I’d pay $1,000 for it.

Why would you ever want eSIM support? The very existence of eSIM is completely antithetical to reason SIM cards were created in the first place. Without physical SIM cards, you're forced to grovel to your wireless provider to please provision your phone, and they can refuse to do so for any reason. With SIM cards, there's no limit to what devices you can use on what networks, outside of hardware ones. I find it ridic…

Largely for travel: the iPhone XS (at least) supports one physical SIM _and_ one eSIM, so you can use the physical SIM with your primary carrier and then sign up for temporary eSIM packages while travelling to keep data without exorbitant roaming fees.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by chipotle_coyote »

o10449366 wrote: post #80
taurath wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not so sure anymore - I have a 3.5 year old iPhone 6s, and replaced the battery with a brand new on from the Apple store not 6 months ago - already, the new battery is worse than the old one a year into the phones life. Random shut offs at 10% and not getting through a day are regular occurances, something that didn’t happen at all the first 2 years

If that's true Apple should replace it for you. Check the battery percentage. I've anecdotally heard if it's draining unusually fast they'll replace it free of charge.

I will add another anecdotal hearing to this, because they did in fact replace an iPhone free of charge for me a few years ago when the battery was draining too fast. (And also a MacBook Pro battery, back in the dim forgotten era when such things were user-replaceable.)
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