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Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by shanacarp »

PieterH wrote: post #104
shanacarp wrote: post #82

First, for the general Reader: Outside of really breast/ovarian cancer, getting most common cancers at a young age is fairly within your control. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/upshot/helpless-to-prevent... Pieter doesn't have a common cancer and he's way beyond that stage within stage IV cancer. In general it's really rude to say "fight more" because he's right, what do you think these patients are doing instead,…

I've no specific distrust of marijuana as a pain killer and appetite booster during chemo. If oil/butter was readily available I'd be using it rather than opiates. I'm not going to smoke marijuana because it's hard enough to breathe already (the metastasis is filling my lungs up). Yet I'd have to get it illegally here. While Belgium is ahead in some areas, it lags in others. Paperwork... is just work. I've a complex…

Are the derivatives in pill form legal? Are there any provisions to allow the dying in belgium (would your doctor or someone here on HackerNews know?)

You deserve to enjoy the time you have

And the summer months appear to be dead throughout the west. eh. It seems to be a thing

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by nikcheerla »

vacri wrote: post #133
Double_Cast wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's absolutely fair to criticize the gesture. You know how SJW's tell outsiders to check their privilege when they make the discussion about themselves? Platitudes similarly make the discussion about themselves instead of the cancer patient. "Fight it." Wow, you're so optimistic! "Eat more fruit." You're so knowledgeable! Since you're a certified nutritionist, am I eating enough Quinoa? http://thelastpsychiatrist.co…

It's weird that you use the dismissive pejorative 'SJW', then take up their argument yourself.

I think the term has sort of evolved to become less dismissive.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by dang »

frign wrote: post #144

This guy is a sheep of the medical system and has already given up just because his treatment stopped working as the doctors told him. Our society and food make us sick, our doctors keep us sick. Why trust them with cancer?

> This guy is a sheep

Personal attacks are not allowed on HN at the best of times, let alone under circumstances like this. This is a bannable offense, so please don't do it again.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by newscracker »

Mahn wrote: post #93
newscracker wrote: post #25

> The only way to beat cancer, really, is to die from something else first. That was a short and pointed article. More so after I read a short comic strip on PHD Comics about cancer [1], I can't help but think that "beating cancer" is a very tough (and impossible) goal for the ones suffering from it and the ones looking for better management or reduction of it. That shining light of optimism after remission is tinged…

> [1]: http://phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1162 So, forgive me if I'm being naive because I don't really have professional experience in the field of cancer research, but this comic makes it sound like a cure for cancer is impossible because it would have to deal with million different forms and shapes that it can take, but, theoretically, wouldn't it be possible to attack the root problem instead, and find a way to bi…

I'm nowhere close to having much knowledge about cancer either, so anything I say is as a lay person. This comic made sense when considering how many cancers are "treated" and what people go through when they have cancer and undergo treatment. Of course, not all types (or targets) of cancers are the same, and we do have better outcomes for some and possibly no hope for others. I've also read in the past that with our current technology, we can detect cancers only when they become significantly big, by which time it's usually kind of serious for the person.

The root cause solution is very likely going to be through some sort of genetic engineering (which is again quite complex). Preventing (bad) mutations requires (in my ignorant opinion) observation over a longer period of time after we find that there's a mutation. This would also need a lot of study and knowledge to be collected across races, genders, ages, etc. In summary, I think we have very less knowledge/information and need a lot more information, time and effort to get to solutions that would work for any human on the planet.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

olantonan wrote: post #124

Quitting Twitter. Not quitting Twitter. Dying. Not dying. Sustrik is God. Sustrik is Satan. What's up with this guy.

Cancer is a horrible disease that I would not wish on anyone, but getting cancer is not a judgement. It won't make you a saint. Nor the reverse. The inevitably flawed person is going to be is much the same as they were before the diagnosis.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by [deleted] »

shmageggy wrote: post #118
milesf wrote: post #81

I lost both my parents last year to cancer. Both were Christians, and so am I. I know many people find Christianity and the subject of faith to be uncomfortable, even offensive. But that's because the Christian message _is_ offensive. It makes claims that exclude all other options, that evil is real and that we are responsible for it. To me, either the message is true or it isn't. There is no grey. Either Jesus Chris…

In addition to unwarranted positivity, unwanted diet advice, and alternative medicine suggestions, I'd add one more to his list of "creatures skulking about": unwanted religious messages. As a non-Christian, if I were dying of cancer I'd really want to not spend my remaining time hearing about stuff like this. If it works for you, great, but to others who aren't sold on it, it comes off as univited at best and rude o…

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Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by [deleted] »

petewailes wrote: post #103
milesf wrote: post #81

I lost both my parents last year to cancer. Both were Christians, and so am I. I know many people find Christianity and the subject of faith to be uncomfortable, even offensive. But that's because the Christian message _is_ offensive. It makes claims that exclude all other options, that evil is real and that we are responsible for it. To me, either the message is true or it isn't. There is no grey. Either Jesus Chris…

You're really in the wrong place if you think this is going to go down well. You might want to give the guy some respect and not espouse religious views here.

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Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by dang »

milesf wrote: post #81

I lost both my parents last year to cancer. Both were Christians, and so am I. I know many people find Christianity and the subject of faith to be uncomfortable, even offensive. But that's because the Christian message _is_ offensive. It makes claims that exclude all other options, that evil is real and that we are responsible for it. To me, either the message is true or it isn't. There is no grey. Either Jesus Chris…

I'm sorry you lost both your parents in a short period. That is hard.

Presenting a religious message like this is off-topic on HN, though, and bound to get people's backs up.

Re: Fighting Cancer

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Post by milesf »

dang wrote: post #159
milesf wrote: post #81

I lost both my parents last year to cancer. Both were Christians, and so am I. I know many people find Christianity and the subject of faith to be uncomfortable, even offensive. But that's because the Christian message _is_ offensive. It makes claims that exclude all other options, that evil is real and that we are responsible for it. To me, either the message is true or it isn't. There is no grey. Either Jesus Chris…

I'm sorry you lost both your parents in a short period. That is hard. Presenting a religious message like this is off-topic on HN, though, and bound to get people's backs up.

It is relevant to the original post. I know it was risky to share, but being able to make sense of life and death is something we will all face.

I used to be a nihilist. I kept asking the same two-word question: then what? Take every hope and dream you have right now, and ask yourself "once I achieve this, then what?"

I have the answers I was seeking, and it actually isn't religion. It is relationship. Religion is actually just "to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world."

Besides, I'm used to getting people's backs up. Vim is the greatest text editor ever :)

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