Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to that diff, Google moved from opt-in sharing of DoubleClick cookies, to...potentially default-in, with a possible opt-out option buried in some unidentified settings page?
To disable it on Android go to: Settings -> Google -> Ads -> Opt out of interest-based ads But the surprise twist is that Apple does the same thing! To disable it on iPhones go to: Settings -> Privacy -> Advertising -> Limit Ad
Google collects metadata from Android phones
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Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#152Says the guy using a free gmail.com email address.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it was so well announced that multiple HN readers -- including me -- who strongly tend towards the privacy sensitive are shocked that they're doing it.
I'm just quoting the EFF's opinion really: > They did a great job of informing users that the privacy policy had been changed through emails and notifications
The title:
What Actually Changed in Google’s Privacy Policy
It Shouldn't Take a Letter from Congress for Google to Give Straight Answers
About Privacy Policy Changes
and the sentence after the one you quoted Unfortunately, while the policy might be easier to understand, Google did a
less impressive job of publicly explaining what in the policy had actually
been changed. In fact, it took a letter from eight Representatives to
persuade them to provide straightforward answers to the public about their
new policy.
and again Unfortunately, Google’s original explanation left much to be desired. The
policy’s overview page said nothing about the substantive changes that were
occurring in the policy, and the FAQ was equally vague:
So yes, maybe Google notified people. But unless you view reading a large document written by lawyers as somehow pointing out that Google is now collecting the same data the NSA worked so hard to get their hands on -- the call logs of every android user -- that's nothing like notification.Here's notification as written by someone who actually wants to notify rather than do the minimum possible to cover their ass while simultaneously obscuring what they actually collect:
We will now record and store every phone number you call.
This goes a long way towards explaining why people trust Apple and distrust Google.ps -- under substantial changes, nothing about telephony. So apparently the eff didn't see or didn't understand the change either.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#154Says the guy using a free gmail.com email address.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Part of the problem is the large percentage of apps that are now tied to proprietary Android, and won't run without Google Apps installed. Even Microsoft apps like Outlook and Skype won't load without Google Play Services installed. (The version of Skype on the Amazon Appstore is around a year old, and won't even take my login credentials.) So even if you find a relatively safe Android version to use, you're getting…
You're not missing out with Outlook... it's absolute garbage on Android. Use Nine instead, it's better and will work without Google Play Services.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#156You can't buy an open source 2d printer, but can buy and build 3d OSS ones no problem. In like kind, I don't think people find dumbphones interesting anymore, sadly. Actually, why print at all when you can "Google Cloud Print"?
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
This feels a bit like blaming unsafe working conditions and 12-hour work days at the beginning of the industrial revolution on workers, because they signed the contracts (this was the prevailing narrative from factory owners at the time too). At some point, society came to the conclusion that the workers and factory owners were not on equal footing, and so rules were instated, despite strong protests from the factory…
Also remember that the factory owners at the time screamed that they could not afford any changes and it would bankrupt them and destroy the economy.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're not missing out with Outlook... it's absolute garbage on Android. Use Nine instead, it's better and will work without Google Play Services.
You are like the first person ever to say that Acompli (now Outlook) sucks.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
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I make the same assumption and the chilling effect is frustrating. I assume everything I type on the internet is able to be tied back to me if anyone at the NSA etc wanted to look at me specifically. Unless you always use a VPN (or Tor) for all of your accounts and go through the unreasonable efforts of preventing browser fingerprinting, chances are this is true for everyone. And even those efforts are thwarted if th…
>Anonymity on the internet is dead All thanks to advertising companies. What a rotten state of affairs.
Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
I make the same assumption and the chilling effect is frustrating. I assume everything I type on the internet is able to be tied back to me if anyone at the NSA etc wanted to look at me specifically. Unless you always use a VPN (or Tor) for all of your accounts and go through the unreasonable efforts of preventing browser fingerprinting, chances are this is true for everyone. And even those efforts are thwarted if th…
>Anonymity on the internet is dead All thanks to advertising companies. What a rotten state of affairs.