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Google collects metadata from Android phones

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Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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post #139

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According to that diff, Google moved from opt-in sharing of DoubleClick cookies, to...potentially default-in, with a possible opt-out option buried in some unidentified settings page?

To disable it on Android go to: Settings -> Google -> Ads -> Opt out of interest-based ads But the surprise twist is that Apple does the same thing! To disable it on iPhones go to: Settings -> Privacy -> Advertising -> Limit Ad

Thanks, I didn't know about this. It's set to opt-out and I don't recall doing that but may have at some stage.i wonder what the default is? The explanation below is unusually readable and come across an an explanation rather than the standard dense legalese that is in eula.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

#153
post #114

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Yeah, it was so well announced that multiple HN readers -- including me -- who strongly tend towards the privacy sensitive are shocked that they're doing it.

I'm just quoting the EFF's opinion really: > They did a great job of informing users that the privacy policy had been changed through emails and notifications

That's about the only positive statement on that page. Here's context.

The title:

   What Actually Changed in Google’s Privacy Policy
   
   It Shouldn't Take a Letter from Congress for Google to Give Straight Answers 
   About Privacy Policy Changes
and the sentence after the one you quoted

   Unfortunately, while the policy might be easier to understand, Google did a 
   less impressive job of publicly explaining what in the policy had actually 
   been changed.  In fact, it took a letter from eight Representatives to 
   persuade them to provide straightforward answers to the public about their 
   new policy.  
and again

   Unfortunately, Google’s original explanation left much to be desired.  The 
   policy’s overview page said nothing about the substantive changes that were 
   occurring in the policy, and the FAQ was equally vague:

So yes, maybe Google notified people. But unless you view reading a large document written by lawyers as somehow pointing out that Google is now collecting the same data the NSA worked so hard to get their hands on -- the call logs of every android user -- that's nothing like notification.

Here's notification as written by someone who actually wants to notify rather than do the minimum possible to cover their ass while simultaneously obscuring what they actually collect:

   We will now record and store every phone number you call.
This goes a long way towards explaining why people trust Apple and distrust Google.

ps -- under substantial changes, nothing about telephony. So apparently the eff didn't see or didn't understand the change either.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

#155
post #22

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Part of the problem is the large percentage of apps that are now tied to proprietary Android, and won't run without Google Apps installed. Even Microsoft apps like Outlook and Skype won't load without Google Play Services installed. (The version of Skype on the Amazon Appstore is around a year old, and won't even take my login credentials.) So even if you find a relatively safe Android version to use, you're getting…

You're not missing out with Outlook... it's absolute garbage on Android. Use Nine instead, it's better and will work without Google Play Services.

You are like the first person ever to say that Acompli (now Outlook) sucks.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

#156
As I've said before, I'd love to have an open source dumbphone. I know there are some big duct tape and PCB examples out there, but something polished and minimalistic would be fine with me. I think there would be a solid niche market in the current climate. I wouldn't buy a new one every other year and it would be way easier to lock down.

You can't buy an open source 2d printer, but can buy and build 3d OSS ones no problem. In like kind, I don't think people find dumbphones interesting anymore, sadly. Actually, why print at all when you can "Google Cloud Print"?

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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This feels a bit like blaming unsafe working conditions and 12-hour work days at the beginning of the industrial revolution on workers, because they signed the contracts (this was the prevailing narrative from factory owners at the time too). At some point, society came to the conclusion that the workers and factory owners were not on equal footing, and so rules were instated, despite strong protests from the factory…

Also remember that the factory owners at the time screamed that they could not afford any changes and it would bankrupt them and destroy the economy.

I dont defend the creepy advertisers but banning their crap would bankrupt and destroy them.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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post #155
post #22

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You're not missing out with Outlook... it's absolute garbage on Android. Use Nine instead, it's better and will work without Google Play Services.

You are like the first person ever to say that Acompli (now Outlook) sucks.

Fantastic, does that come with a ribbon?

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

#159
post #31

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I make the same assumption and the chilling effect is frustrating. I assume everything I type on the internet is able to be tied back to me if anyone at the NSA etc wanted to look at me specifically. Unless you always use a VPN (or Tor) for all of your accounts and go through the unreasonable efforts of preventing browser fingerprinting, chances are this is true for everyone. And even those efforts are thwarted if th…

>Anonymity on the internet is dead All thanks to advertising companies. What a rotten state of affairs.

We may nerd out over their open source and tech, but aside from a few for-pay services (Apps for Business, Firebase, dev cloud, etc) Google is the largest advertising company in the world. When you choose a Google product, you are choosing that.

Re: Google collects metadata from Android phones

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post #31

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I make the same assumption and the chilling effect is frustrating. I assume everything I type on the internet is able to be tied back to me if anyone at the NSA etc wanted to look at me specifically. Unless you always use a VPN (or Tor) for all of your accounts and go through the unreasonable efforts of preventing browser fingerprinting, chances are this is true for everyone. And even those efforts are thwarted if th…

>Anonymity on the internet is dead All thanks to advertising companies. What a rotten state of affairs.

Aww come on, give the NSA some credit!
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