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Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by jimmydoe »

felixrieseberg wrote: post #46

Hi, this is my team! Happy to answer any questions. There's a lot in this launch, but the core idea is to simplify the product while giving users access to more capabilities. You no longer need to know ahead of time how much work a conversation might involve. If you're at your computer, Claude can use your local files and apps. If you close your laptop, Claude can keep working on its own computer. This launch also le…

this is good change for ux. thanks

I'm operating Team accounts, are there changes on how org-wide skill/plugin get loaded and used?

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#142

Post by mjrpes »

ceejayoz wrote: post #68
TutleCpt wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on earth would you present a presentation that you haven't reviewed ahead of time?

I wish I knew, but I've definitely seen it happen. "What does this bit mean?" "I dunno."

Why even have a meeting? That's just a waste of time when agents are much better at reviewing plans anyway. You don't even need presentations anymore. Executive officers can just create a review agent with a "special sauce" prompt (essential to justify their high salary) and auto sign off on a plan if it passes the crucial test: "is this plan good?" Finally we can have true business automation and people can go back to much more important things, like looking at KPI reports and being impressed or unimpressed.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#143

Post by SSLy »

mirashii wrote: post #22
tamimio wrote: post #9

Is there a mature centralized platform, self hosted, that sync all your “AI stuff” across multiple devices? So regardless of the harness, it sync the api keys, providers, skills, and seasons for starters with other authenticated machines? Say you used codex on macos_1 through this platform, and later you used opencode on linux_3, it syncs everything to the new machine, no ssh to centralized machine, no git, none of t…

The mistake here is thinking or treating AI tools as special or different in any way. We’ve had tooling that does this for decades. Ansible, puppet, saltstack, NixOS/home-manager, and dozens of other solutions. Even better, writing the configuration is extra simple now, since you can just ask your agent to do it.

config is easier than the memory/state/history stuff.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by jimmydoe »

alansaber wrote: post #124
adrithmetiqa wrote: post #23

Most normal users have no idea whether to choose chat or cowork. This makes sense for 95% of customers.

Exactly, a change like this will always be abhorrent to the 5% of technical users (aka this forum), and a net gain for the other 95%

99% of the 5% can use claude code.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by MarkMarine »

ChickeNES wrote: post #126
MarkMarine wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude has a jagged UX if you support non-devs. The surfaces before today in the desktop app were: Chat, cowork, Claude code. Inside Claude code you’ve got cloud environments and local. Let’s say as a normal desktop user you wanted to just automate something normal in your work, going to a website (maybe some internal app at your company) getting some data. Depending on what surface you used this will either not work…

Sounds like they need a "Claude for Normal People" and a "Claude for people who know how computers work" lol

I would argue they need 1 product owner for the app surface so I can’t see their org structure so clearly. Those jagged edges and users hitting blocks depending on what section of the app they were in are design failures, I know how a computer works and when using the Claude app it wasn’t always clear to me what the right combo of things to press to get my desired outcomes.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by adrianmonk »

clumsysmurf wrote: post #27
petcat wrote: post #10

Nobody really knows how to product-ize any of these LLM interfaces beyond just chat. They don't want a traditional UI with buttons and forms and labels because they want the interface to be "chat". The problem is that "chat" is tedious. And the turn-based, linear nature of the chat interaction model makes it even more tedious and unproductive.

One thing I would like is a tree-like chat structure like reddit / HN. Many times I abandon the direction things have gone but would like to resume at some ancestor or sibling response.

Gemini has something kind of like this. In a chat, click on the "..." icon next to one of Gemini's responses and select "Branch in new chat".

It creates a new chat which has the conversation up to that point and a link to the conversation you branched it from.

The UI isn't tree-like, though. It's more like Git where each branch name is just mixed in with the rest of the soup of references.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by fragmede »

firmretention wrote: post #54
steve1977 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sometimes get very different answers if I ask the chat product the same question multiple times.

Isn't that expected since LLMs are inherently non-deterministic?

There's deterministic enough, and then there's computer science non-deterministic. If I ask for a Todo app, I'm going to get a Todo app, even if the buttons get moved around and the background color of it is brown instead of purple if I ask today vs 6 months ago. If the AI completes the phrase "the capital of France is..." with anything other than Paris, something has gone more wrong than usual.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by colingauvin »

x187463 wrote: post #88
royal__ wrote: post #8

These kinds of updates always have this romantic scenario of someone having Claude develop a presentation or something on their way to work between multiple devices, which actually feels a little sad and does not align with what happens in my life at all.

I've found basically all of the release presentations are completely irrelevant and seem to target a very narrow subset of the population. They're always reserving something like a restaurant or a sports venue or generating a new slide deck for their business meeting. Perhaps these companies would do better if they could make a use case for regular people. You know, the 90% of the folks out there working normal jobs…

I'm probably about 90%ile income for my household but live in a HCoL area and have two children in daycare. I rent, don't own, and I have enough that I can buy a coffee without thinking, but will be sending my kids to public school, can't just up and go on a vacation.

I make restaurant reservations 7-8 times a year? My wife and I go on dates and you simply aren't getting a table where I live if you don't. Fyi we typically spend $120 or so on those dinners.

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

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Post by confusedbucket »

felixrieseberg wrote: post #46

Hi, this is my team! Happy to answer any questions. There's a lot in this launch, but the core idea is to simplify the product while giving users access to more capabilities. You no longer need to know ahead of time how much work a conversation might involve. If you're at your computer, Claude can use your local files and apps. If you close your laptop, Claude can keep working on its own computer. This launch also le…

In the web interface, are there any plans to support attaching local directories through File System Access API and accessing internal (as in, not reachable over Internet) MCPs, assuming correct CORS setup, of course?

Re: Claude Cowork and chat are now one Claude

#150

Post by tamimio »

johen8 wrote: post #33
bakies wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very intentionally have all memory turned off for chat. The amount of times I want to discuss an approach for it to pull memory out and have that steer the decision making is so obnoxious

Chat, create a new landing page for the company! "Sure! And since you were asking me about lobsters yesterday, I'll make it red and seafood themed!"

Reminds me few months ago I asked it about a TV model specs, then later I was doing a UI for something, response was “I modified xyz and now should works perfectly with the HDR in your TV model!!”
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