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Didn't realize this was in a browser. That tells me all I need to know.
Coming soon: Suno Desktop (Electron version). "Look ma, no browser!"
I’ve seen at least one AI-focused, Electron-based DAW already.
Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW
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> It either needs to be: 1. So easy anyone can press a button and magically get exactly what they want with perfect accuracy and quality. 2. So robust and powerful it enables new kinds of music production and super-charges human producers. Don't forget the secret third option - facilitate a tidal wave of empty-calorie content which saturates every avenue for discovery and "wins" purely by drowning everything else out…
I gave up on synthwave which was a genre I loved because there's so much AI it just not worth the effort to find new music. I'll listen to old songs but I have zero interest in new songs. I moved to a more niche genre where there's no AI yet.
same, I listen to a synthwave playlist on spotify, and once it ends spotify starts playing 'similar' music and at that point I just start feeling gross.
Re: Suno Studio, a Generative AI DAW
#144Suno is moving toward becoming a browser-based DAW that happens to use AI. There are already more capable and established DAWs, and I see no reason they can't implement AI into their workflows-- in a more precise manner, where it's actually useful, instead of wholesale as a gimmick. Many are already doing this. So I don't understand where Suno is going with any of this. It either needs to be: 1. So easy anyone can pr…
> And listeners/consumers can tell the difference between art created with intent and soul, and a pale imitation of that. Respectfully I disagree. We have had curated, manufactured pop, built by committee and sung by pretty mouthpieces with no emotional connection, for a long time now, and they make big money. And look at the vocaloid stuff too. Those who care, care. Everyone else?
I do care, in fact I started bying vinyl and CDs again. I will not consume AI slop.
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#145Without a doubt, Suno Studio boasts some impressive features. One of the introductory videos features a voice-to-saxophone demonstration. The result sounded surprisingly good to me and was perfectly usable. I wonder how AI-assisted music production like Suno will change the profession of being a musician. I think people want their favorite music artists to be real humans they can relate to. For that reason, I guess r…
I think music used for commercials, movie trailers etc will move to be AI generated (taking a revenue stream from artists into soul less corporations).
But for cases where music is the primary product, I don’t for see AI generated music overtaking anything
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#146What's special about Suno 5 is that the songs are actually good to listen to in place of professionally produced songs. For example, my favorite genre is new jack swing and there is a very limited number of this genre as it was briefly popular during the 90s. Now I have an endless supply of it and you can't tell that its AI produced anymore. Sure to an expert they might be able to detect it but for consumers its just…
> as a consumer I could care less if you put your soul and years into producing art
> my favorite genre is new jack swing
My friend, where do you think your favorite genre that AI is now parroting comes from…
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By underdog I meant the above HN commenter wanting to prove to us that the AI-created songs he likes are actually considered good by others.
I actually have listen to all the links people posted. They are not that bad. But when they say it can replace Pop music I can only laugh. It is the most boring early 2000 RnB ever created and it souns thin. Any Aphex Twin model out there?
Definitely more Boards of Canada, but Aphex is a big inspiration behind a lot of my prompts (I really just said that, yeah - it's kind of hilarious talking about generated music):
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That's the same process as AI-assisted coding. Or AI-assisted writing. Or AI-assisted anything.
We use AI assisted coding to be more productive or to do boring stuff. If the 'making the music' part is what you are getting away from, why make music? You're basically a shitty 'producer' (decent producers are amazing at those boring parts you are skipping and can fill out a track without hitting up a robot) at that point.
People like different things, obviously? Boring is very subjective.
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#149Before AI there was a general consensus that creative areas (eg. Cities) were becoming a homogenized experience. A Starbuckization if you will. I can’t help but wonder what gets lost when using tools like this.
Since you get exactly the kind of music you want, I think it leads to extremely small bubbles, which is pretty much the opposite of homogeneity. For example, I had never heard epic power metal about birds, but with Suno I got exactly what I wanted. Sure, the sound quality (I only used v3.5) could be better and the songs could be longer, but I don’t care, I now have epic songs about my Bourke’s parakeet. However, I’m…
This is an interesting perspective.
Generating ‘content’ tailored to you and not meant for someone else’s taste.
Human artists need to make money and those who create music for a tiny bubble probably can’t make enough.
So as an artist what do you do? Do you have to create music with mass market appeal from the beginning?
Or do you need to bank on luck that your music for ‘small bubbles’ gets discovered?
Or you have to have clever marketing strategies to get your music in front of more ears to hopefully gain more fans. And create merch, tour etc.
I wonder how all this AI music is going to impact indie artists. Spotify and the likes is just ripping them off and on top of that their music is / has been stolen from these AI data gobblers.
I don’t see how at this stage it can replace human expression though (singing, playing violin, piano, etc) which is very nuanced.
Same with acting… nuanced expressions that matter. I’m not sure AI can replicate the acting skills of Denise Gough (Dedra from Andor) for example… and many others.
But it would be awesome to generate more story lines or episodes from your favourite TV shows, for example shows from over 20 years ago.
Imagine being able to create more episodes of Star Trek TNG or DS9, maintaining the feel of that era without letting someone like Kurtzmann ruin and tell you how new Star Trek should be.
But how do you ensure actors, writers and other creatives from that show will be compensated directly?
Or maybe this will only be possible in a Star Trek like world, where profit uber alles is not the focus anymore.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> And listeners/consumers can tell the difference between art created with intent and soul, and a pale imitation of that. Respectfully I disagree. We have had curated, manufactured pop, built by committee and sung by pretty mouthpieces with no emotional connection, for a long time now, and they make big money. And look at the vocaloid stuff too. Those who care, care. Everyone else?
I do care, in fact I started bying vinyl and CDs again. I will not consume AI slop.
Wait until you dive into the Suno community to discover some people got signed by labels and are publishing CDs and vinyls…