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Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by chrisco255 »

kibwen wrote: post #80
trentnix wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Less than a year ago multiple States attempted to remove Trump from the Presidential ballot. That’s the closer analogue to the shenanigans in Turkey, not the attempted equivalence you’re trying to make.

Refusing to accept that you lost an election and then attempting an insurrection to overthrow the candidate that you lost to isn't quite the same thing.

J6 wasn't the first protest Washington D.C. has ever seen, but it was somehow the first they allowed to get out of hand.

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by john-radio »

fracus wrote: post #22
aiono wrote: post #9

I am from Turkey and this really concerns me. If we don't protest this in the streets and fight back I am afraid we don't have any kind of law anymore.

Isn't this just the latest cut in your democracy's death by a thousand cuts?

Isn't it always?

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by throwaind29k »

aiono wrote: post #9

I am from Turkey and this really concerns me. If we don't protest this in the streets and fight back I am afraid we don't have any kind of law anymore.

The more fundamental question is why a degree should be necessary to run for President. US does not require one for example.

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by [deleted] »

ReptileMan wrote: post #23
gottorf wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of those countries has a president who basically tried to stage a coup, and now are back in power ignoring any rule of law President Yoon of South Korea has been suspended since December, as a result of the martial law incident and the following impeachment. (Actually, Yoon's prime minister, who first became acting President, was also impeached and suspended. It's someone else now.)

He was talking about Trump

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Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by etiam »

alephnerd wrote: post #88
chgs wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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It's a disrepectful comparison for Turkish nationals working hard to build democratic institutions. The US hasn't had the same history of coups, insurgencies, pogroms, massacres, censorship, corruption, etc. Making everything about the US is just rude.

In my book, if anything was disrespectful it's the flippant attitude of dismissing sabotage of the opposition candidate as just one more step towards the death of democracy in Turkey. (And I'm not claiming that was necessarily out of line. Seems basically well-intentioned to me.)

The comparison is pretty apt, and extremely current. More or less the whole world is watching with horror (or glee, depending on political values), as the US is on a fast track to repressive autocracy.

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by gottorf »

ReptileMan wrote: post #23
gottorf wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> one of those countries has a president who basically tried to stage a coup, and now are back in power ignoring any rule of law President Yoon of South Korea has been suspended since December, as a result of the martial law incident and the following impeachment. (Actually, Yoon's prime minister, who first became acting President, was also impeached and suspended. It's someone else now.)

He was talking about Trump

I see. Droll.

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by klipt »

jayknight wrote: post #92
wnevets wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure it sounded like a good idea at the time but this proves once again these kind of limitations placed on leadership positions can and will be exploited.

In 2028, The State of Indiana is going to issue a corrected birth certificate for Pete Buttigieg showing him to be 32 years and therefore not eligible to be president.

Or claim he wasn't even born the US...

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by dghlsakjg »

manishsharan wrote: post #133
harshreality wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardeep_Singh_Nijjar

Not sure what your point is. Nijjar was a terrorist linked to assassinations in Punjab and committed to destruction of India. A nation , democracy included, has a right to protect itself.

A nation has a right to protect itself.

It does not have a right to use extrajudicial assassins in a foreign country to kill someone who does not actively pose a threat. In a democracy you have a right to a trial, to see the evidence against you, etc. you don’t just kill people.

By the same logic, India would be fine if Canada sent covert assassins to India to go after the assassins and the people that ordered it? Should Canada send assassins into India to go after the people that have been illegally influencing Canadian elections? After all, they pose a threat to the country, and a country has a right to defend itself…

There is a process for extradition, and international prosecution. India chose to not pursue that process, and assassinate a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil.

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by klipt »

selcuka wrote: post #71
khazhoux wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything?? Or do you just mean digital media?

Everything. For example, try not paying your property taxes for some time to see if it's really your "property".

A lot of the value of land comes from its neighbors: roads, schools, trains all cost money but make land more valuable. It's only fair the cost of those things comes from taxing the increased value of the land.
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