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Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by gottorf »

necovek wrote: post #12
ReptileMan wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That sounds like pretty arbitrary borders you are setting: I don't really see much difference between stuff happening West of Vienna and East of South Korea too (one of those countries has a president who basically tried to stage a coup, and now are back in power ignoring any rule of law).

> one of those countries has a president who basically tried to stage a coup, and now are back in power ignoring any rule of law

President Yoon of South Korea has been suspended since December, as a result of the martial law incident and the following impeachment. (Actually, Yoon's prime minister, who first became acting President, was also impeached and suspended. It's someone else now.)

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by fracus »

aiono wrote: post #9

I am from Turkey and this really concerns me. If we don't protest this in the streets and fight back I am afraid we don't have any kind of law anymore.

Isn't this just the latest cut in your democracy's death by a thousand cuts?

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by ReptileMan »

gottorf wrote: post #21
necovek wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like pretty arbitrary borders you are setting: I don't really see much difference between stuff happening West of Vienna and East of South Korea too (one of those countries has a president who basically tried to stage a coup, and now are back in power ignoring any rule of law).

> one of those countries has a president who basically tried to stage a coup, and now are back in power ignoring any rule of law President Yoon of South Korea has been suspended since December, as a result of the martial law incident and the following impeachment. (Actually, Yoon's prime minister, who first became acting President, was also impeached and suspended. It's someone else now.)

He was talking about Trump

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by khazhoux »

blitzar wrote: post #16
anticensor wrote: post #2

This is not only revoking his diploma, but establishing a very dangerous precedent in Turkey: "all rights are temporary and can be revoked on a whim"

> "all rights are temporary and can be revoked on a whim" That is the basis on which practically everything I have purchased from American companies (or their subsidiary in a tax haven) exists.

Everything?? Or do you just mean digital media?

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by addicted »

hagbard_c wrote: post #14
ReptileMan wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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India is quite big. Any Indians around here want to comment on whether these shenanigans are common there? I have the impression they're not but maybe I'm wrong. Talking about India, Lex Fridman interviewed Modi [1] recently, worth a listen or read. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43405546

India has its own set of political issues, but as far as I can tell nothing this egregious.

Lets consider the fact that after 10 years of Modi and the BJP having overwhelming majorities in Parliament, with Modi’s personally popularity close to all time highs, over a period where many external watchdogs essentially claimed democracy was dead in India, in an election where the BJP was expected to completely whitewash the opposition, not only did the BJP do worse than the previous election, they lost their standalone majority in parliament and had to form a government in coalition with other parties, and were a handful of seat losses away from losing to the opposition coalition.

In general the parliamentary system with a figurehead president as well as India’s extremely culturally diverse nature and weak federal government system, and strong judicial system, seems to have kept Indian democracy almost unreasonably effective relative to India’s poverty, education, and development levels.

Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president

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Post by g8oz »

Erdogan has turned the country into an electoral autocracy. The Swedish Varieties of Democracy centre released its annual report analyzing the state of democracies around the world as of the end of 2024. America is still listed as a liberal democracy. It's an open question whether it still will be by the end of next year.

https://www.v-dem.net

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