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They should still pull you over for that. Pilot's don't get to watch an in-flight movie just because autopilot is on.
The legality of a pilot watching a movie is irrelevant to the discussion. It's legal for the person in the driver's seat to watch a movie with Mercedes' level 3 "Drive Pilot" active (in certain locations). A cop pulling you over is only wasting the time of everyone involved.
Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
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Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
> some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them I'm genuinely curious - what are you thinking when you say this? I don't know what I'd do with that information. It shouldn't make me drive differently - e.g. not be aggressive to see if I can invoke reaction(s) in the autonomous system, and I should already be driving w/ due care.
If they get deadlocked in a intersection or something and can’t make a decision I know I should go around them
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#143AFAIK Mercedes is the only automaker with the nads to take legal liability for their autopilot. That's the table stakes: legal liability. I don't want to hear any other automaker, Tesla or otherwise, crow about their "self-driving" tech if they don't take legal liability for it, because it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that they don't have faith in their system. Kudos to Mercedes.
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#144I think this idea makes some sense, in a mixed-traffic world where some vehicles are autonomous and others are not, some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them. Additional situational information, provided it is not overly intrusive or overwhelming is generally beneficial. As for the colour, clearly Mercedes requested Turquoise for brand reasons. I wonder if th…
“The turquoise color for Level 3 driving was chosen by SAE, so other brands beyond just Mercedes will use it for their own cars.”
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea of preserving night vision is based on rod cells being insensitive to light with a wavelength >640nm (ie red). Halogen bulbs found in headlights produce a lot of light under that wavelength, and are going to be at a much higher intensity than turquoise indicator lights.
> Halogen bulbs found in headlights produce a lot of light under that wavelength, and are going to be at a much higher intensity than turquoise indicator lights. Tangential, but holy shit, this is great to know, and explains why I generally feel blinded every time someone with those horrible headlights drives by. I wonder if there’s anything that can be done (to my windshield? to some glasses?) that can reduce the im…
Also, halogen is an old lamp type that has been in use since the 1960s. Then towards the 1990s, there were changes in optics with "projector" housings for halogens, and then the shift to high-intensity discharge (HID aka xenon) lamps. The latest ones now are LED, of course.
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea of preserving night vision is based on rod cells being insensitive to light with a wavelength >640nm (ie red). Halogen bulbs found in headlights produce a lot of light under that wavelength, and are going to be at a much higher intensity than turquoise indicator lights.
> Halogen bulbs found in headlights produce a lot of light under that wavelength, and are going to be at a much higher intensity than turquoise indicator lights. Tangential, but holy shit, this is great to know, and explains why I generally feel blinded every time someone with those horrible headlights drives by. I wonder if there’s anything that can be done (to my windshield? to some glasses?) that can reduce the im…
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
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what would be a better alternative color? to me the placement seems substantially different from the reversing light (which is usually more toward the middle of the back) of course these pictures probably don't tell much about how it will actually look like in traffic, but some kind of pattern seems to be the way to go (that's recognizable from 2-3 cars afar in a traffic jam, for example if folks are curious WTF that…
The alternative is a light in a predictable position or with a standard shape. I really hate that EVs are trying to be all modern about light systems redesigns. Specially in the US, car manufacturers are being very creative with their new designs in ways that are not even legal in Europe. I hope international standards for human-friendly lights can be agreed upon soon.
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
The legality of a pilot watching a movie is irrelevant to the discussion. It's legal for the person in the driver's seat to watch a movie with Mercedes' level 3 "Drive Pilot" active (in certain locations). A cop pulling you over is only wasting the time of everyone involved.
Which locations are those?
> Mercedes-Benz is the first automaker to gain approval to sell a Level 3 automated driving system in the United States; the first customer-owned S-Class and EQS sedans in California and Nevada equipped with the Drive Pilot system hit dealer lots this month.
Re: Mercedes gets approval for turquoise automated driving lights
#149I think this idea makes some sense, in a mixed-traffic world where some vehicles are autonomous and others are not, some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them. Additional situational information, provided it is not overly intrusive or overwhelming is generally beneficial. As for the colour, clearly Mercedes requested Turquoise for brand reasons. I wonder if th…
> some indication that a vehicle is driving autonomously is useful information to everyone around them I'm genuinely curious - what are you thinking when you say this? I don't know what I'd do with that information. It shouldn't make me drive differently - e.g. not be aggressive to see if I can invoke reaction(s) in the autonomous system, and I should already be driving w/ due care.
It's quite the opposite... if there's a tiny gap between two cars in the other lane, you usually don't squeeze in between them, becaus the rear driver in that lane could be distracted and wont brake and let you in in time, or might intentionally not widen the gap, to net let you squeeze inbetween. With automated cars, you can slowly swerve into the too-narrow gap, and the safety mechanisms on the self-driving car will automatically make room for you :) There are many dangerous maneuvers that agressive drivers can't do now, because there will be a crash if the other drivers don't notice them and brake in time, and the self-driving cars will always notice and make room for the either bad or intentionally agressive driver.