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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Yikes. So turning private images into memes and posting them internally isn't a fireable offence but union talk is? Such impeccable standards for conduct.

Let's wait and see if these employees get fired, this just broke. Typically an investigation happens.

Reminds me of the Uber Christmas party story where they had things like this on a projector

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

Holy cannoli, that sounds like a lawsuit and a half to me…

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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>Are you really victim blaming here? Nasty. There's room for both acknowledging that someone is a victim, and that this was fairly predictable. Just as a mugging victim doesn't deserve a mugging, they probably shouldn't walk down dark alleyways at night. And if they didn't know better ... well, that's a problem too.

>And if they didn't know better ... well, that's a problem too. Yes, but not necessarily their fault.

Yes, we've established that.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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There was a Google SRE who stalked women through their Google accounts. I wonder if I can find that HN thread... update: Found one of them, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1692754 ( "Google fired engineer for breaking internal privacy policies" (2010)) It's not linked in there, but the Wired writeup adds that (0) there were at least two SRE's fired for something like this and (1) Google chose not to report this…

Do I really need to point out the differences between these two stories or can we agree they're not actually comparable?

Well, in my case, I fail to see how these stories are incomparable; they're not identical but they seem, at least, comparable. What makes them so fundamentally different that someone is wrong to share that story as an example of "something like this" story?

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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>Are you really victim blaming here? Nasty. There's room for both acknowledging that someone is a victim, and that this was fairly predictable. Just as a mugging victim doesn't deserve a mugging, they probably shouldn't walk down dark alleyways at night. And if they didn't know better ... well, that's a problem too.

Predictable, sure. Which says to me that the situation should have been predicted by the legal and HR teams before this division got fired up, leading to a robust code of conduct and compliance that would prevent this from happening in the first place, with heavy penalties for abuses and breaches.

Yes, I agree with that too.

It's not one or the other.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Wanted to get Model Y in the past. Nice comfy car, huge backseat and… a camera filming inside the car. Thanks no. Apparently for drowsiness detection, but I am not buying it. Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry. Not a normal color camera filming everything and streaming somewhere like Tesla does.

Cover the camera with some tape? That's what I do with my laptop camera.

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Interesting, thanks. The fact that PayTM doesn't guard sensitive personal data even when it's a local tech behemoth makes me not want to use digital payments and switch to cash.

Except there's no evidence that they don't guard sensitive personal data other than an unsubstantiated post.

Why are you advocating sensitivity to the giant corporation here? If there's a defense its "we don't allow random employees to access these records, and anytime an access is performed we audit the access including interviewing the responsible employee and reviewing call recordings. If the access was for anything other than an approved reason we fire the employee."

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I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

From personal experience, people will do anything they are physically capable of doing and think they can get away with. Almost nobody I know has the slightest amount of respect for any private data to which they have access. This extends from people in healthcare breaking HIPAA to tell me about how Jane Doe is an idiot who got a mayo jar stuck in her vagina to IT workers showing me John Doe's cringey nude selfies. T…

This is what makes the lie more potent. It’s based on a kernel of truth, and because it reinforces beliefs, you can easily believe a Paytm employee acted negligently, with no more evidence than an anecdote.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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There was a Google SRE who stalked women through their Google accounts. I wonder if I can find that HN thread... update: Found one of them, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1692754 ( "Google fired engineer for breaking internal privacy policies" (2010)) It's not linked in there, but the Wired writeup adds that (0) there were at least two SRE's fired for something like this and (1) Google chose not to report this…

Do I really need to point out the differences between these two stories or can we agree they're not actually comparable?

Both violate user privacy and imply a need for better data privacy protections.

One was targeted and the other was not, but they are in the same class of issues even if the severity is different.

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