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Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by MegaDeKay »

wellthisisgreat wrote: post #134
_vbdg wrote: post #6

I just built a new hackintosh with opencore, and compared to clover, it was so much nicer. The documentation [0] is excellent; I'm able to grok what each option does rather than just guessing. It also feels so much less janky than clover did. Better filevault support, faster, leave SIP on, etc. It's also better in that one can avoid polluting /L/E /S/L/E, which will also allow users to keep running kexts even after A…

Hi, I looked at the guide - it seems there are no step by step instructions there. Do you think this a good guide given that you just walked through the experience? I am looking for a solid step-by-step guide that explains what USB to make etc https://khronokernel-2.gitbook.io/opencore-vanilla-desktop-g... Or this one: https://insanelymacdiscord.github.io/Getting-Started-With-Op...

The link from this article should probably be this one instead.

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Desktop-Guide/

This is the actual website with links, sidebars, etc and will give you the step by step instructions your are looking for. Just be very careful to read every word carefully. It is very easy to breeze past a very important point.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

weaksauce wrote: post #138
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need to rewrite the GPU rom! I never set it up fully due to other issues, but I had High Sierra + GPU passthrough working quite well in ESXI last fall. I would still be using ESXI now, except my (unusual) goal was to run 10.9, and I couldn't for the life of me get GPU passthrough working in 10.9. The neat thing about ESXI, though, is that it is officially supported by macOS. Only on Apple hardware, of cours…

do you have any resources to look at for setting this up?

I don't! For whatever reason, there is precious little information on the internet for running macOS in ESXI. I got the original idea from another Hacker News comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17766016 And then, this is what you need to enable macOS on non-Apple hardware: https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/files/file/964-macos-unloc... The rest is the same as setting up any other VM in ESXI with GPU passthrough, so you can read tutorials on that.

High Sierra and an nVidia card "just worked" for me on ESXI. (Sadly, Mavericks did not—I could not get the GPU to output anything—and that was the only OS I cared about—but you probably don't care.)

There's a lot more information on using KVM, so you may want to go that route instead. But of course, then then you need to use a Hackintosh bootloader like Clover or OpenCore. It was really cool having everything just install natively with ESXI.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by solarkraft »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #115
therealmarv wrote: post #104

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ah good to know. So at least never an AMD hackintosh for me. Are this problems completely gone with Intel hackintoshes?

There aren't any inherent problems with Docker, VMWare, Unity games, or Adobe apps on Intel Hackintosh machines, if that's what you mean. Apps just work, and when you do encounter a bug in some app, you can be quite confident it isn't because you're using Hackintosh. I expect AMD is always going to have some oddities because no AMD CPU has ever been used in a real Mac.

How is it even possible to make AMD hackintoshes? It seems a bit like magic to me because I'd expect that while the basic instruction set may be the same, there must be so many intel-specific extensions and differences in the details. Apparently I'm wrong about that, which is cool!

... But then again AMD laptops are almost impossible to hackintosh because of the integrated GPU not being supported, apparently.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by drewg123 »

roblabla wrote: post #8
oneplane wrote: post #3

I wonder if the VT-d disablement is required for the rootkit to work. Ideally you'd have VT-d in macOS for virtual machines, but then again you also don't have Thunderbolt so maybe it's simply not complete enough to enable 'everything'. (and if you really need everything you should probably just buy a Mac anyway)

I think the story is something like macos fails to parse the DMAR table properly, or something along those lines. If you drop the DMAR ACPI table you don't need to disable VT-d. If you disable Intel Virtualization support from the kernel via the dart=0 kernel flag, you don't need to disable VT-d.

Its hilarious that they kept that name. As I recall, "DART" was the IOMMU on G5 (Device Address Remapping Table maybe?)

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by tekknik »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #132

Hackintosh has a tendency to create amusing technical problems, so I thought I'd share some I've come across over the years. --- I had one computer that would only boot if a specific USB Bluetooth adapter was connected. If it wasn't inserted while the computer turned on, I'd get a kernel panic during the bootup process. However, I could unplug the adapter after boot and everything would be fine. I didn't notice the p…

I’ve personally experienced a variation of the mouse one. For me it was network traffic would only pass if I moved the mouse. I have a screen recording of it somewhere, it was pretty wild. I remember switching from a Mac Pro to an iMac resolved it for me.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by tdiggity »

cgb223 wrote: post #107
tdiggity wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did run into some stability issues with the latest 10.15.4 release. But I was not running this latest version of OpenCore (0.5.7) that supposedly works better with 10.15.4. I upgraded before 0.5.7 was released. I have a backup that I can test with before fully committing. That being said - I had to rebuild my machine to downgrade to 10.15.3. Luckily, I had a spare backup to work off of and things are great again. S…

> I mainly did this because I wanted to have an all-in-one machine to play the latest games with on Win10 and do work in OSX. For my daily work and coding (mostly JS/Python these days), I haven't had any issues. For the price, it can't be beat! So it’s stable enough for pro-dev work and gaming. That’s exactly what I’m looking for. How are Xcode build times? (Or whatever IDE you use)

The hackintosh beats my work laptop (mbp 16") in pretty much every way.

Hackintosh geekbench CPU scores: Single 1252, Multi-core 8025

See these geekbench charts: https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Rebelgecko »

MegaDeKay wrote: post #141
wellthisisgreat wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I looked at the guide - it seems there are no step by step instructions there. Do you think this a good guide given that you just walked through the experience? I am looking for a solid step-by-step guide that explains what USB to make etc https://khronokernel-2.gitbook.io/opencore-vanilla-desktop-g... Or this one: https://insanelymacdiscord.github.io/Getting-Started-With-Op...

The link from this article should probably be this one instead. https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Desktop-Guide/ This is the actual website with links, sidebars, etc and will give you the step by step instructions your are looking for. Just be very careful to read every word carefully. It is very easy to breeze past a very important point.

I thought I was going crazy because people kept linking to documentation that didn't look thorough at all. Protip for those on mobile: On the top left corner, there's a gray button (really hard to see over the gray background!). If you hit it, a sidebar containing what you actually want to read will show up.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by Rebelgecko »

Hamuko wrote: post #73
buzzert wrote: post #66

If anyone has an Intel NUC that they were thinking of turning into a hackintosh, there’s a really great guide/set of documentation out there for a project called HaC Mini[1] which is based on OpenCore. This was my first exposure to OpenCore after being a long time Clover user and it was very good! [1] https://osy.gitbook.io/hac-mini-guide/

The latest i9 NUCs look like a great Mac Mini replacement if they're Hackintoshable. Although they seem to be quite pricey.

The NUCs with CPUs comparable to the one that the Mac Minis offer are a lot cheaper (since they're a few generations old). Around $500 or so if you bring your own memory

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by stefanwlb »

rubatuga wrote: post #124
x3sphere wrote: post #72

I use OpenCore but have switched my Hackintosh system over to running in a VM (using GPU passthrough). It's easier for me to backup / make changes this way, and there is only a minor performance hit. This is a Geekbench run from my VM (Core i9 10940x with 4 cores passed through): https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/15395105 I have a Windows 10 VM running on a same system too. It may not be suitable if you require vi…

If you're looking to create a macOS VM (w/ GPU Passthrough), I've made a detailed guide here: https://github.com/yoonsikp/macOS-KVM-PCI-Passthrough I believe my guide is better at avoiding GPU driver initialization problems than others. I'll need to update it to support OpenCore however.

Does nvidia work through GPU pass through as I know hackintosh didn’t support my 1660gti gpu when I tried it a few months ago.

Re: OpenCore: Hackintosh Alternative to Clover

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Post by spockz »

throwlaplace wrote: post #52
doteka wrote: post #39

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So this is a genuinely surprising attitude to me. You appreciate the software features and hardware stability of a platform, yet you do not want the creators to be paid for their work? I mean, it must be obvious that doing these things well apparently costs tons of man-hours and someone needs to be compensated for it? How do you maintain that degree of cognitive dissonance?

lol at the accusatory and indignant tone. 1. apple is a hardware company not a software company. to wit: they do not sell mac os and if they did i might buy it. 2. i don't care a lick about any other features or "stability" ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22845629 ). i simply said that i appreciated the workspaces feature. can i buy this feature ala carte? i would gladly. can i pay the devs that built it for t…

I used to use Desktops[1] when I still used Windows. I’m not sure whether windows supports full screen apps these days so it will be slightly different experience.

[1]: https://superuser.com/a/177046

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