Tesla Posts Big Quarterly Loss as Its Electric-Car Sales Lag

Post by onlyrealcuzzo » Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 1:48 AM UTC

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The irony is that Tesla was supposed to bankroll SpaceX, but SpaceX is killing it on profits and Tesla is floundering. If anything it looks like SpaceX will end up bankrolling Tesla. Musk should forget about trying to save this planet and focus on getting to the red one.

> SpaceX is killing it on profits SpaceX isn't open about their financials, but all indications are that they are losing money.

Post by gutnor » Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 1:52 AM UTC

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I see this trend continuing for Tesla. Aside from Musk's leadership, which is very polarizing, I don't see their cars as being very compelling compared to the upcoming offerings of Audi and Porsche. Tesla isn't really competing against Ford/Chevy/Honda/Toyota. Instead they are competing against BMW/Mercedes/Porsche/Audi. By comparison Teslas seems like a toy compared to those other brands so I will gladly wait and gi…

I think pretty much every single person who owns a Model S/X would tell you that they're never going back to the old German crew. Tesla enjoys the strongest brand loyalty of any car manufacturer. Apple-like loyalty. Tesla doesn't feel like a toy, it feels like the future. They're years ahead of everybody else in terms of tech that is usable today.

Post by Xcelerate » Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 1:55 AM UTC

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Generally when people are down on Tesla or Elon Musk, it's because they want them to succeed at displacing internal combustion engines. They're not rooting for internal combustion engines, they're rooting for electric cars and annoyed when the company (or Musk) flounders from self-inflicted damage. At least, that seems like most of the criticism here. No one is going to respond well to an advocate of a technology the…

EVs are a false peak. So long as everyone is driving around in their own personal automobile, we're doing nothing to address autocentic development, with all it's accompanying sprawl, concrete, ashphalt, steel, and general hi-consumption culture that goes with it.

Post by goshx » Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 2:01 AM UTC

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The most surprising thing about your post to me is the price of a new Model S. That's $150k. Is the price so high because it includes VAT?

You can option up a Tesla Model S in the US to $150k.

Post by DarmokJalad1701 » Thu, Apr 25, 2019, 2:01 AM UTC

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Model 3 owner here: Tesla already feels at least three years ahead of other manufacturers, and the cars other manufacturers are promising in the next few years are aiming to possibly compete with what Tesla's been selling for at least a year. The Model S is being sold today with 370 miles of range, Autopilot, and the Supercharger network. Where will Tesla be in a few years if/when other manufacturers catch up with th…

>370 miles of range, Autopilot, and the Supercharger network >Where will Tesla be in a few years if/when other manufacturers catch up with that? wouldnt that be highly dependent on teslas cash burn and desperate cash grabs to survive the next quarter? in a few years you should hope to still retain some form of autopilot, maybe the supercharger network is shared/sold off, 370 miles of range? battery tech isnt improvin…