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Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by tormeh »

eru wrote: post #118
enimodas wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should they accept a country that's not in Europe for 95% of its landmass? Not to mention the huge cultural gap.

The borders of Europe the continent are arbitrary. Cultural gap between eg members Sweden and Italy is probably bigger than between member Greece and Turkey?

I've heard some Turks saying that the people living in Istanbul and western Turkey are basically Greek. Land has changed hands between Turkey and Greece many times and the people there often stayed put.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by diminish »

SyneRyder wrote: post #137
JadeNB wrote: post #91

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> Weird, kinda like the US. Which part of aytekin ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14780685 ) 's message reminds you of the US? Whatever else one may say of the current state of US politics, this: > the other half of the population took over the country and started applying middle eastern and Islamic ideals instead. … the islamists see west as evil. doesn't sound like it. (To be fair, I didn't quote: > They bel…

Which part of aytekin's message reminds you of the US? For me, it was the notion of those in villages / rural areas having increasing interest in power, as they feel increasingly abandoned & their values ignored. It reminded me of the US Midwest becoming more interested in politics, leading to Trump's win over Clinton: “You saw turnout spike in more rural counties,” Alexander said. “If you take a look at a lot of the…

Spot on. I guess the backclash to Globalization is still progressing (despite Macron). I listened to most of the GOP candidates running for US presidency during debates on FOX, CNN and other channels. I was surprised how similar they sounded to : especially Trump, Carson, Cruz, somewhat Rubio.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by Rjevski »

johansch wrote: post #26
mustaflex wrote: post #23

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They did play a message from Ergodan when you call any number but only for clients of 2 mobile operators: Turkcell and Vodafone. http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/telefonla-konusmak-isteyenlere-er... Link in turkish but it confirms what this post says.

Implementations for something as "innovative" as this are bound to be spotty early on. Is there even pre-existing infrastructure/services/software support in typical networks for stunts like this or was this something they had to build? Did they need to involve their network infra suppliers? For Turkcell that's fully outsourced to Ericsson; network hardware, services implementation, ops, etc etc; pretty much everythi…

It's called "early media" and it's something standard, sometimes used to announce that the call will be charged at a premium rate and giving the caller a chance to hand up before the call begins and they get charged.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by golergka »

BjoernKW wrote: post #123
aytekin wrote: post #68

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Here is why: Half of the population wants to be part of the Western world. They believe in secularity and many other Western ideals. That's how Turkey became a close ally to US, part of NATO and almost became part of EU. Because this half had the control and the other half previously mostly lived in villages and wasn't interested in power. Then, as they moved to cities and as they became influential, the other half o…

> Expect West to kick out Turkey from NATO or Turkey to leave NATO soon since the islamists see west as evil. I don't think so. Unfortunately, ethics often play a less than significant role in international affairs like this. Just look at the dealings the Western world and the US in particular have with a backwards, medieval state like Saudi-Arabia that more or less openly supports Islamic extremism. Turkey is a stra…

You do realize that without Western support current Saudi government will fall victim to internal opposition, which is much more fundamentalist and is not significantly different from ISIS, right?

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by fsniper »

Theodores wrote: post #53
fouadmatin wrote: post #2

The number in the video is 112, which is Turkish-equivalent of 911 in the U.S.

I wonder if anyone in Turkey is dialling 112 to test if the message is played. Maybe people are calling their mums to test if the message is on, perhaps it is a good day for telco revenue.

nah, telcos granted free usage rights for the day. It's absolutely absurd.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by coldtea »

petre wrote: post #64
gonvaled wrote: post #58

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Sure, Turks could also have rejected Erdogan (they voted for his reforms a couple of months ago). What are you trying to say? And what was the last time that the UK voted to be a monarchy? Because Turkey voting recently makes it arguably more democratic.

They didn't because most of the UK public supports UK being a monarchy so if anyone made such a proposition it would probably be highly unpopular. But they did vote to leave the EU for not having it their way. This decision has always been more popular, since about 60% of the UK public voted to join the EC, not the EU.

>They didn't because most of the UK public supports UK being a monarchy

Of course they do. After all they are indoctrinated in its favor from an early age.

I don't see what rational people, starting from first principles, would agree to a bunch of do-nothings sitting in a palace, aristocrats owning huge plots of land that just got handed down to them, that aristocratic class having huge say in politics, networking their kids everywhere, etc.

(As for the "it's good for tourism" argument, you can have your palaces and castles made into tourist places even after you have thrown out your royals. The Palace of Versailles makes millions in tourist fees every year for example.)

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by coldtea »

mrtksn wrote: post #93
gonvaled wrote: post #65

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Why is having a monarchy that nobody voted to get rid of more democratic than having a president people voted for? Why is your elected president hijacking the telephone network worse than your unelected queen hijacking your tv network?

Think of it as if the Queen speech was about the excellent job the British people did on the Brexit referendum, defeating the traitors. Currently, a little bit more of the half of the population supports Erdogan and the other half hates him. Though admittedly the anti-Erdigan half did not support the coup as it is believed to be orchestrated by another islamist, but still...

>Currently, a little bit more of the half of the population supports Erdogan and the other half hates him.

So, just like most politicians?

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by golergka »

gonvaled wrote: post #65
petre wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They didn't because most of the UK public supports UK being a monarchy so if anyone made such a proposition it would probably be highly unpopular. But they did vote to leave the EU for not having it their way. This decision has always been more popular, since about 60% of the UK public voted to join the EC, not the EU.

Why is having a monarchy that nobody voted to get rid of more democratic than having a president people voted for? Why is your elected president hijacking the telephone network worse than your unelected queen hijacking your tv network?

Because Queen doesn't have almost any real power.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by eru »

tormeh wrote: post #141
eru wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The borders of Europe the continent are arbitrary. Cultural gap between eg members Sweden and Italy is probably bigger than between member Greece and Turkey?

I've heard some Turks saying that the people living in Istanbul and western Turkey are basically Greek. Land has changed hands between Turkey and Greece many times and the people there often stayed put.

Of course, there's lots of animosity between them because of that shared history. So don't mention the similarities to their face, unless you know them well.

Cuisine in western Turkey and Greece is basically the same, too.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by sesqu »

diminish wrote: post #133
sesqu wrote: post #101

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> Gulenist group did the coup attempt Has the government provided convincing evidence of this? I know Gülen was immediately accused despite not being in the country, but I don't know of any evidence of his audience being involved beyond Erdoğan not getting along with the guy, which automatically makes any opposition sympathetic to him.

Actually there's no doubt that Gulenist islamists staged the coup and they are like those private label grocery brands - never do anything on their own name. Their US-based cleric has embedded thousands of Shakirts(students) well organized in police, army, juridical system. Indeed till last few years, Gulenists were the love of Erdogan, a lot of governments, politicians and public, liberals. Now only left with some s…

That sounds an awful lot like the Global Liberal Conspiracy. If they don't even have a common ideology, how can they be said to follow the teachings of any cleric?
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