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Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by lucaspiller »

xepbam57 wrote: post #50

Have anybody thought why you hear the sound(beeeep-beeeeep-....) when you make a call and from where it comes? Yes, telco can put anything there. Even more, I wounder why we do not hear some commercial Ad's every time we call. This would be in a spirit of current times...

Some of the mobile carriers in the U.K. have provided the option to change the dialing tone when people call you for a good few years. I think it was limited to a preselected list of songs though.

Don't give them ideas please :-)

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by petre »

exakoustos wrote: post #49
johansch wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implementations for something as "innovative" as this are bound to be spotty early on. Is there even pre-existing infrastructure/services/software support in typical networks for stunts like this or was this something they had to build? Did they need to involve their network infra suppliers? For Turkcell that's fully outsourced to Ericsson; network hardware, services implementation, ops, etc etc; pretty much everythi…

That engineer would probably be Greek since Ericsson has outsourced a lot of the dev work on MSC/VLRs there. I remember working on a feature that allowed a user to copy the music they listened while waiting and play it when someone called them. As for the ethical implication there's none. This exact functionality would be extremely helpful in case of an actual emergency.

It's rather funny how things turn out in life: a Greek playing Erdogan propaganda over the cell network for Turks.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by netheril96 »

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #60
xepbam57 wrote: post #50

Have anybody thought why you hear the sound(beeeep-beeeeep-....) when you make a call and from where it comes? Yes, telco can put anything there. Even more, I wounder why we do not hear some commercial Ad's every time we call. This would be in a spirit of current times...

Indeed! Verizon, a carrier in the US, actually made a product out of this by allowing people to buy what they branded "Ringback Tones" which would play some song or tune when someone called your number and you hadn't picked up yet. Not sure if it's still a thing.

The ringback tones were immensely popular in China. Nowadays it has faded in popularity.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by petre »

gonvaled wrote: post #58
greglindahl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The UK could vote to abolish the monarchy, but they haven't. In a typical democracy, you are subject to laws that you didn't vote for or "agree to". A modern constitutional monarchy is a structure agreed to by the people.

Sure, Turks could also have rejected Erdogan (they voted for his reforms a couple of months ago). What are you trying to say? And what was the last time that the UK voted to be a monarchy? Because Turkey voting recently makes it arguably more democratic.

They didn't because most of the UK public supports UK being a monarchy so if anyone made such a proposition it would probably be highly unpopular. But they did vote to leave the EU for not having it their way. This decision has always been more popular, since about 60% of the UK public voted to join the EC, not the EU.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by gonvaled »

petre wrote: post #64
gonvaled wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, Turks could also have rejected Erdogan (they voted for his reforms a couple of months ago). What are you trying to say? And what was the last time that the UK voted to be a monarchy? Because Turkey voting recently makes it arguably more democratic.

They didn't because most of the UK public supports UK being a monarchy so if anyone made such a proposition it would probably be highly unpopular. But they did vote to leave the EU for not having it their way. This decision has always been more popular, since about 60% of the UK public voted to join the EC, not the EU.

Why is having a monarchy that nobody voted to get rid of more democratic than having a president people voted for?

Why is your elected president hijacking the telephone network worse than your unelected queen hijacking your tv network?

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by tillcarlos »

xepbam57 wrote: post #50

Have anybody thought why you hear the sound(beeeep-beeeeep-....) when you make a call and from where it comes? Yes, telco can put anything there. Even more, I wounder why we do not hear some commercial Ad's every time we call. This would be in a spirit of current times...

Does anyone know who is listening to YOU when that ring tone comes?

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by kalleboo »

AlphaWeaver wrote: post #60
xepbam57 wrote: post #50

Have anybody thought why you hear the sound(beeeep-beeeeep-....) when you make a call and from where it comes? Yes, telco can put anything there. Even more, I wounder why we do not hear some commercial Ad's every time we call. This would be in a spirit of current times...

Indeed! Verizon, a carrier in the US, actually made a product out of this by allowing people to buy what they branded "Ringback Tones" which would play some song or tune when someone called your number and you hadn't picked up yet. Not sure if it's still a thing.

They were pushed heavily by operators in (parts of?) Europe in the mid 2000's, back when every other TV ad was for Jamba ringtones. I was on the operator "Three" and they let you set your ringback tone to "3 Is A Magic Number" for free much to the chagrin of absolutely everyone who called me.

Re: Turkish GSM networks currently play a message of the President on any phone call

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Post by aytekin »

exabrial wrote: post #34

Why are they a NATO country again

Here is why: Half of the population wants to be part of the Western world. They believe in secularity and many other Western ideals. That's how Turkey became a close ally to US, part of NATO and almost became part of EU. Because this half had the control and the other half previously mostly lived in villages and wasn't interested in power. Then, as they moved to cities and as they became influential, the other half of the population took over the country and started applying middle eastern and Islamic ideals instead. And, they have so much ambition and hatred in them. They are ready to replace the democratic republic with a new Ottoman Empire that will probably be similar to Iran.

Expect West to kick out Turkey from NATO or Turkey to leave NATO soon since the islamists see west as evil.

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