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iOS 7 looks familiar

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Not to be partisan, or anything. The thing that stood out the most for me was slide-up to unlock, that's been a Windows thing since they began their redesign with WP (from WinMobile). Still I think that somehow Apple did a better job with the flat UI, I'm currently using Windows 8 (by choice) and my phone is a Lumia 521 (again by choice), and I always feel that something is off with the WP/W8 buttons, they just seem…

My two year old daughter figured out how to unlock my iPhone by sliding her thumb across the slider. Interested to see how she'll find the iOS 7 interface. Toddler usability testing :)

My 2 year old did it on my winphone, which uses a full-screen slide to unlock.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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post #55

I have the Lumia 920 and Microsoft absolutely nailed the design of the OS. It works seamlessly with Office Live/Online/365 whatever the heck they call it too. The home screen of the phone agitates my OCD something fierce because I have to get it just right or... I'll... die... Seriously though, its a great phone and if you need one for work like I do, might as well get one you really like.

Lumia 900 owner here. OS is nice, but the apps... just as an example, I got really frustrated with IE this morning because it didn't recognize StartCom as a trusted certificate authority, and it doesn't cache my response (to ignore the warning and browse the page anyway). The https page loaded the first time, but subsequent pages just showed blank screens. And that stupid SSL warning page just kept popping up.

It's 2013 and I can't browse certain web pages with my expensive smartphone...

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

It's actually not an ad hominem . A firm grasp of language, grammar, and communication is actually recognized, albeit informally, to be a good signal of technical skill and design effectiveness. If he can't refine his linguistic communication well enough to convey such a simple sentence, how can he be expected to refine his visual communication (i.e., UX design) well enough to surpass one of the leading UX teams in t…

I predict there will be a "Ad Hominem Fallacy Fallacy Fallacy", which states that presenting the article is not a valid defense.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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post #86

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

Even if these are just trends, we now see Apple following trends rather than setting them. That's a significant change.

Is it even? Over the last 30 years haven't we seen Apple follow plenty (in addition to leading). Is it possible to both be hyper-focused and also always be first?

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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post #2

Not to be partisan, or anything. The thing that stood out the most for me was slide-up to unlock, that's been a Windows thing since they began their redesign with WP (from WinMobile). Still I think that somehow Apple did a better job with the flat UI, I'm currently using Windows 8 (by choice) and my phone is a Lumia 521 (again by choice), and I always feel that something is off with the WP/W8 buttons, they just seem…

Irony: it only looks like it's slide up to unlock. It's actually slide sideways. My twitter stream right now is full of people pointing out how deeply confusing that little arrow at the bottom of the screen is. See it in action: http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/06/slide-to-unlock-appadvice...

Particularly ironic since Apple made such a big deal out of their slide to unlock patent, being a competitive advantage etc. and specifically tied to moving something from two explicit points along a predefined path. Now after all that fuss they just threw it away and copied their competitors?

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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post #91
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No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

What phone are you using? How much system memory do you have left? There's a lot of reasons for lag beyond just a new OS. Some of those things could be exacerbated by the new OS, but for another datapoint, I'm running an iPhone 5 with 3.1/16GB used and I'm not experiencing any lag. The animations are a delight. I am, however, not a fan of some of the graphical choices they made. A few subtleties like a thin 1px inset…

An Apple system is intended to be never laggy. The background apps should be killed to make room for UI.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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post #108

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No, I haven't tried beta releases before. I'm sure they'll get rid of all minor annoyances such as bit of lag or weird layout reflows. It was reported that they are working on the new design behind schedule, so I think this release was made in a bit of hurry.

All of their beta releases have had these problems. Apple betas really are betas.

Exactly. You should have seen the Leopard nightlies. The top bar translucency was off for a while and it was basically non-functional. The dock would crash regularly, etc.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

#139
post #85

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

It feels nothing like Android. The easing and physics are very different. I'm sure they'll fix some of the the visual design.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

#140
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

It's actually not an ad hominem . A firm grasp of language, grammar, and communication is actually recognized, albeit informally, to be a good signal of technical skill and design effectiveness. If he can't refine his linguistic communication well enough to convey such a simple sentence, how can he be expected to refine his visual communication (i.e., UX design) well enough to surpass one of the leading UX teams in t…

Your argument falls apart when you realize that good design has nothing to do with being able to speak a certain specific language (in this case, English) really well.

(I agree with your gist though about ridiculing the idea it would be trivial to do a better job at design)

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