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iOS 7 looks familiar

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by lepht »

cheald wrote: post #12
sosuke wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The text slide to unlock has a shine animation that moves from left to right.

I get that, but I think it's very difficult to make an argument that given a new user, it would be interpreted as an interaction cue rather than just visual polish. The presence of the up arrow is actively misleading, from a UX perspective. It's like having a slide toggle that you have to double tap to activate!

I've been running iOS 7 for a day now and had some co-workers give it a try -- all of them current iPhone users -- and literally every single one of them tried to swipe up to unlock.

Unfortunately, in my experience so far, this isn't the only case of misleading and unintuitive design in iOS 7.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by jroseattle »

The similarity to Windows Phone and some concepts I first saw on Android were what caught my eye here. And do I think that's a bad thing? No.

I think what has everyone generally up in arms is that, with Apple, they never look like they're copying anyone. Until they do.

And what frustrates others is when users try to explain away how it's not really a copy, it's something different because it's done oh-so-much better.

I don't really care all that much, but one thing is certain -- the new iOS7 design looks more like designs of competitors than it does the previous iOS line.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by epochwolf »

Geee wrote: post #108
LowKarmaAccount wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had a chance to beta-test any of the previous iOS releases? It is possible that other iOS releases had lag issues that were fixed before the release to the general public.

No, I haven't tried beta releases before. I'm sure they'll get rid of all minor annoyances such as bit of lag or weird layout reflows. It was reported that they are working on the new design behind schedule, so I think this release was made in a bit of hurry.

All of their beta releases have had these problems. Apple betas really are betas.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by pazimzadeh »

Geee wrote: post #85
greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

I have been testing the beta on my iPhone 4S and the animations do indeed seem sluggish compared to iOS 6, but I don't doubt that Apple is aware of this and is working on to restore snappiness in the next few months.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by shortstuffsushi »

When I see the new screenshots, I can only think of the old, maybe 2003 era Microsoft Powerpoint themes. I haven't quite been able to pin down what about it is drawing the parallel for me, but it is.

Having an unfortunately difficult time finding a relevant link :(

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by gurkendoktor »

thedufer wrote: post #25
cheald wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is something that really, desperately confuses me. Apple is supposedly the king of intuitive design, and yet here, you have literally the first interface people will see on the phone, with an interaction model which is completely impossible to intuit, and only works for people who are already trained in how to complete the action. I get the desire to eliminate depth, but that little slide gutter and right-pointi…

I'm not saying its not confusing, but that up arrow is there for a reason - a swipe up from the bottom opens the control panel over the lock screen.

- Except in the bottom right corner where it will jump to the camera. Even after I'd noticed all the visual hints for this, I got it wrong for the first few times. I wonder if they should have dropped the direct camera shortcut in favour of the control panel, which is a swipe and a tap.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by [deleted] »

jroseattle wrote: post #112

The similarity to Windows Phone and some concepts I first saw on Android were what caught my eye here. And do I think that's a bad thing? No. I think what has everyone generally up in arms is that, with Apple, they never look like they're copying anyone. Until they do. And what frustrates others is when users try to explain away how it's not really a copy, it's something different because it's done oh-so-much better.…

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by [deleted] »

infinitone wrote: post #72
CanSpice wrote: post #66

During the WWDC keynote I tweeted this: "Not sure what's worse about WWDC keynote days: Apple fans cheering for new features or Android/WP fans saying "we have that already"." It's boring and repetitive and expected. Yeah, they mimic. Big deal. Get over it.

Samsung would like to have a word with you. (motioning the lawsuit that Apple took up against them last year over petty things like rounded corners)

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by ruswick »

Geee wrote: post #85
greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

>I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there.

This sort of lag has been a common artifact throughout the iPhone's history. Crashing apps, lag, and outright unresponsiveness are daily occurrences on my iPhone 5. It's honestly gotten to the point where, if I didn't have an astronomical amount of money tied up in their ecosystem, I'd switch to a Nexus 4 tonight.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by 542458 »

dirkgently wrote: post #101
greghinch wrote: post #70

These arguments always strike me as coming from people who don't actually understand what design is. The folks who think that design is the font face, the weight of lines, the colors used. Those are all facets of design, but they are essentially just tools to accomplish the goal: experience and engagement. What you are noticing are just trends, and this is nothing new. Look back over the history of even just twentiet…

This particular argument strikes me as coming from people who don't actually understand that Rounded Corners(TM)(R)(C) fall in the same category.

I'm really sorry to drag this up again, but the "rounded corners" thing isn't really as ridiculous as some people made it sound. There are two important points here.

First - Samsung was found not to infringe on design patent D'889, which is commonly criticized as the "rounded rectangles" patent. Most of the patents in the case covered other ideas ('381 patent - "rubber band" scrolling, 'D '305 patent - home screen design, '163 patent - double tap to zoom onto a specific block). The "rounded rectangles" issue had little bearing on the verdict.

Second - Read patent D'889 (Please note that it isn't a regular patent, rather, it's a design patent). The patent specifically (and only) covers a touch-screen handheld tablet shaped like a rounded rectangle, with a thin bezel, edge-to-edge glass, and minimal extras, a charging port at the bottom and no stylus. It's hardly as simple as a patent on "rounded corners" - it's a patent on very specific design features, and if a single one was changed, the patent wouldn't apply (and it didn't!).

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