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Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by nmfisher »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #62
monster_truck wrote: post #54

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I'm constantly telling people to look up physical therapy movements/stretches for whatever they've got going on. Slept wrong? Tweaked your neck? You absolutely do NOT have to suffer with that until it goes away on its own, they can show you how to fix it. If your insurance covers it, go see one! Them being able to actually see and feel what's going on specifically with you makes them markedly better at their jobs.

Can’t find the link now but a very comprehensive analysis of surgery vs physiotherapy for lower back issues found that physiotherapy was as effective as invasive, often dangerous spinal surgery. The only difference was time - surgery with recovery + recovery physio fixed the pain in about 4-6 months, while physiotherapy took 18-24 months But on the plus side, physiotherapy is “free”, has no real risk, and most people…

Would be great if you could find that link.

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Post by Brian_K_White »

circlefavshape wrote: post #122
jMyles wrote: post #12

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> The joint at the base of my thumb started telling me it's 60 years old This is my biggest apprehension. I've become quite a good guitarist, and I know that can't last forever. Getting my accomplishments in while I can.

Your accomplishments? For me playing music is for joy, not for status

1: They didn't say anything about status.

2: Developing a capacity or facility is an accomplishment regardless what purpose it's put to.

Trying to tell someone they don't have the right attitude based on something they didn't even say was an interesting way to profess joy.

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Post by lII1lIlI11ll »

IsTom wrote: post #64
kelipso wrote: post #59

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Different protein sources have different amino acid compositions and they have different effects on the body.

Still, if you eat enough complete protein sources you'll have all the amino acids you need.

Likely yes, but I've had enough chicken breast for life during my fit 20s. I just don't feel like stuffing myself with tasteless sources of protein anymore and testy ones (burgers, steaks, grilled salmon, etc.) will cause unwanted side effects and risks when consumed in high amounts.

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Post by strken »

lII1lIlI11ll wrote: post #133
IsTom wrote: post #64

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Still, if you eat enough complete protein sources you'll have all the amino acids you need.

Likely yes, but I've had enough chicken breast for life during my fit 20s. I just don't feel like stuffing myself with tasteless sources of protein anymore and testy ones (burgers, steaks, grilled salmon, etc.) will cause unwanted side effects and risks when consumed in high amounts.

Even bodybuilders and powerlifters admit that 2g protein per kg of body weight is about all you need. You can get that with a normal diet and a couple of protein shakes, which taste fine if you use milk and half a banana. You don't need to eat a whole chicken breast for every meal.

I made spaghetti bolognese last night and it had 60 grams of protein per 800 kcal serve. Admittedly I used lean kangaroo mince, because I'm Australian and it was on sale. Still: three meals like that and you wouldn't even need a protein shake.

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Post by sandos »

elenchev wrote: post #107
cake-rusk wrote: post #89

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Why not take up cycling?

I tried swapping running with cycling for a few months but honestly as somebody who spends a good portion of my time on my ass, often with suboptimal posture in front of a screen I hate the idea of exercising still sitting on my ass with bad posture. The most important thing imo is to find a form of cardio you enjoy. It's not worth stressing over the differences between forms of cardio just find something you like an…

MTB is the solution here. You can't really sit down when it gets a bit rough.

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Post by fcpk »

lII1lIlI11ll wrote: post #133
IsTom wrote: post #64

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Still, if you eat enough complete protein sources you'll have all the amino acids you need.

Likely yes, but I've had enough chicken breast for life during my fit 20s. I just don't feel like stuffing myself with tasteless sources of protein anymore and testy ones (burgers, steaks, grilled salmon, etc.) will cause unwanted side effects and risks when consumed in high amounts.

I have yet to see anything against regular eating of fish and fatty fish other than the "scare" of heavy metals, which only applies for wild fish.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by fcpk »

John7878781 wrote: post #28

In some contexts (e.g., pancreas), 15-PGDH inhibition can promote tumor growth by increasing specific signaling.

Yeah, a lot of healing mechanisms are also behind many tumor/cancer factors. There's a lot of reasons behind aging phenomenons, and a lot are self protective. It's not given all of the aging is intended and can't be reversed, but a lot of it is there for biological reasons.

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Post by aeonik »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #114
aeonik wrote: post #39

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There's very good evidence coming out of UC Davis. they have MRIs, decent experimental evidence, and biochemical explanations. They have published quite a few papers over the years. You can start here, https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9267994/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5183725/ Look up Keith Baar.

I found that second link interesting although it raised the question of why gelatin versus amino acids in general. However neither link seems to have anything to do with UC Davis or biochemical mechanisms related to collagen supplementation. I realize that it probably wasn't your intent but the mismatch leaves me feeling vaguely as though you tried to deceive me there.

They have published a lot of stuff.

I don't remember the exact link for the biochem stuff. Something about collagen being glycine limited and vitamin C being a catalyst for synthesis for tendon tissue regrowth.

Here are the two papers I remember reviewing.

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/2wn8s39q

https://escholarship.org/content/qt2j57t1j1/qt2j57t1j1.pdf

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by aeonik »

giardini wrote: post #100
aeonik wrote: post #70

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Yea, same here, following the studies had helped me fix a 18 year old shoulder tendon issue. I owe that research group a lot.

What happened to you? Might anything you have learned help me? Recommended reading? I too have a shoulder tendon issue: 14 months ago a loud one-time "pop" occurred while doing a simple external rotation shoulder exercise with very light weight. I immediately lost most strength lhs and the shoulder felt very loose. More than a year later + 1 steroid shot my shoulder is much better but still loose.

It's complicated, rotator cuff tear combined with a bunch of rib, shoulder and neck injuries. I never properly healed them, just rest, career in tennis ended after trying to rest and heal 3 times over 8 years.

YouTube and Physical Therapy combined with the UC David protocol has brought back more strength and mobility than I've ever had.

My main issue I had before was I kept pushing my injury too hard without proper remodeling.

The UC Davis protocol requires a specific isometric, loaded stretch while dosing Vitamin C and Type 2 Collagen an hour before isometrics.

It took about 6 months before I felt it getting significantly better, and I'm not fully healed yet, but I can actually throw balls to my kids without feeling my injury now.

Re: Anti-aging injection regrows knee cartilage and prevents arthritis

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Post by djmips »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #86
mcswell wrote: post #73

Anecdote for any runners reading this: I'm a 75 year old runner. (Some young runners might say I run at a jogger's pace, I just tell them to keep off my lawn.) A couple decades ago, I stopped running on concrete or asphalt, and took up trail running, i.e. running on (mostly) dirt. It feels way easier than running on asphalt, much less on concrete. If you're skeptical that running on concrete or asphalt feels harder,…

I switched to trail and found I stopped getting injuries related to lateral stabilization of my hips and legs. I've come to think it's because the trails challenge those stabilizers sufficiently so they get trained properly rather than... I don't know, repeatedly being irritated by running too straight for long periods of time? I'm not a kinesiologist so I have no idea what the real difference is, but I do know I get…

I've thought the same thing. I always feel more balanced when including the challenge of uneven terrain. When I was a kid I used to be able to run full speed through forrest litter.
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